The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

How as your neighbors doing?




politicalbrambles.blogspot.com/2010/05/medieval-warm-period-indeed-much-warmer.html

Above average for the 20th Century. Any idea what that gray dip is? Why is the Medieval Optimum considered optimal?

* They're still trapped where they are.
* I don't know when I can research answers for your other two questions. I have the data, but it's always a question of finding it.

[aerohead]

I had to check this one out.
Benjamin Kunkel, in a September, 2024 'The Nation' article, mentioned the recent science journal article which reported the projection.
His interest was the fact that, if true, it would mean that the 'growth' of all GDP, of all nations on Earth, would be cancelled out each year, paying to recover from all the related effects.
Since 'capitalism' is the ultimate Ponzi scheme, requiring new 'suckers' to expand the market all the time, and 'forever', compensating for the expected losses each year, will effectively 'degrow' the world economy, with less wealth per individual available.
It's just cooked into the equation. And since we won't collectively spend anything proactively on the 'ounce of prevention,' we're certainly unlikely to deal with the 'pound of cure.'
https://www.pik-potsdam.de/en/news/l...20variability.

[redpoint5]

How much in climate-related gains by 2050?

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

How much in climate-related gains by 2050?

I'm limited to ABC, CBS, and mostly PBS. I've never experienced any reporting on ' climate-related gains.'
I'm certain that, in 'micro-scale' environments, we'd find certain so-called 'regional' benefits, only because climate scientists take those into considerations in their observations, however, on the 'global'-scale, the red ink overshadows the black ink.

[redpoint5]

Lack of reporting on something isn't evidence of it's non-existence.

All of your sources share the same ideological possession.

... and the same argument can be said that negative consequences of global warming is experienced regionally, on a micro-scale.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Lack of reporting on something isn't evidence of it's non-existence.

All of your sources share the same ideological possession.

... and the same argument can be said that negative consequences of global warming is experienced regionally, on a micro-scale.

Turning the table, if any 'climate benefits' were accruing, they'd be best known to the climate scientists, and already included in the calculus used to calculate GDP.
At a $38-trillion annual loss, whatever 'pluses' existed on the balance sheet, would be exponentially out-shadowed by the 'negatives.'
So 2050 would mark the 'end of growth.' From then on, the economy would continue to contract as we moved deeper into the 6th mass extinction event.
'Ockham's Razor'

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Turning the table, if any 'climate benefits' were accruing, they'd be best known to the climate scientists, and already included in the calculus used to calculate GDP.
At a $38-trillion annual loss, whatever 'pluses' existed on the balance sheet, would be exponentially out-shadowed by the 'negatives.'
So 2050 would mark the 'end of growth.' From then on, the economy would continue to contract as we moved deeper into the 6th mass extinction event.
'Ockham's Razor'

I'm saying nobody is looking for good news, because;

a. it doesn't align with any religious ideology
b. nobody pays to discover good news
c. folks would prefer to keep their jobs and social reputation rather than full tell the truth

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I'm saying nobody is looking for good news, because;

a. it doesn't align with any religious ideology
b. nobody pays to discover good news
c. folks would prefer to keep their jobs and social reputation rather than full tell the truth

I've read MANY, peer-reviewed, scientific journal articles in SCIENCE and NATURE which discussed 'limited', 'regional' climate-related, benefits that have been observed and quantified.
We talked about those years ago.
Presently, there's stuff going down all over Earth, that's beyond your knowledge, simply because you won't 'look' outside your conformational-bias filters.
If you'd look 'outside' you might see stuff that would lead you to understand why the computer-generated predictions are trending in the direction they are.
We are the 'frog' in Al Gore's Jr.'s frying pan.

[aerohead]

Global warming reduced heating-oil demand such that, the price of crude oil fell, which allowed the production of reduced-cost chemical intermediate compounds used in polymer chemistry. The lower-cost intermediates ultimately meant that Asheville, North Carolina-area residents could finally afford to festoon their yards with cheap, plastic, pink flamingos from the local garden center, ahead of the floodwaters that would ultimately inundate, or sweep them away.

[redpoint5]

There's no laughing emoji, but that was clever.