The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[freebeard]

We were asked not to discuss climate change. I'll wait until Darin or the other higher-ups green-light the topic.

Wasn't it political bickering? But sure, DM the mods and have them post in the thread. Ground rules or whatever.

Otherwise, the pandemic, black lives matter, and reopening the economy seem to have dominated all media reporting.

Well there's your problem — listening to the corporate media. They're monomaniacal.

Listen to them and you wind up befuddled like John Gilkerson.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhHH7I8kuAg

[JSH]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

If you're trying to sell something you're doing a really bad job.

I'm not selling anything. Just pointing out that the threat of our changing climate is abstract for many people in a way that COVID 19 and riots on the streets of your own city are not. The later will get more attention than the former.

[freebeard]

... threat of our changing climate is abstract for many people in a way that COVID 19 and riots on the streets of your own city are not.

And Space Weather is more abstract yet.

[oil pan 4]

Don't speak ill of the dead.
We should celebrate the accomplishments of the global warming movement that later transitioned into the climate change movement.
Let's see they closed a bunch of nuclear power stations, tried to ban facking which gave us natural gas which was used to replace coal, they closed coal plants that were supposed to be the safer alternative to nuclear, the same people promoting global warming then blocked over all water wind projects on the east coast for a decade, they got diesel vehicles off the road and replaced them with more CO2 per mile emitting gasoline cars, they promote hydrogen which uses natural gas, emits CO2 and is horribly inefficient.
They suppressed research into space effects on weather.
They pushed electric vehicle technology forward, that was about all they really accomplished.
This 6 month break in climate change mass hysteria has given people a chance to do actual science again that not attached to a political agenda.
I'm sure the climate change movement will come back some what next summer and die it's final death that year.

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by aerohead

We were asked not to discuss climate change. I'll wait until Darin or the other higher-ups green-light the topic.
Otherwise, the pandemic, black lives matter, and reopening the economy seem to have dominated all media reporting.

I like how the biggest threat to man kind ever was just tossed aside for what amounts to jerry springer episodes involving larceny and use of explosives to commit felonies.

[freebeard]

Thor's Hammer

https://youtu.be/7wpxSKrd77Y?t=37

[Xist]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

If they needed a violent race that breeds fast and can use technology [while driving or walking into imminent danger] we would totally be in the covenant.

Fixed!

[oil pan 4]

2+2 would equal 5 in a world with out 4. Then 4 would be 5 and so on.

[freebeard]

2+2 would equal 5 in a world with out 4

I'll grant you the 'would' but wouldn't that raise holy havoc with the cosmological constants?*

When you encounter the question of "how much," you probably think of the force of gravity being determined by a universal gravitational constant, G, and of the "energy of a particle" being determined by its rest mass, such as the mass of an electron, me. You think of the speed of light, c, and for quantum mechanics, Planck's constant, ħ. But physicists don't like to use these constants when we describe the Universe, because these constants have arbitrary dimensions and units to them.

[in the voice of the young Woody Allen in Annie Hall] "The Red Shift is quantized!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjHa_RoeAYw

*Now that I think about it that would be moving from base 5 to base 4, expressed in base 10. That would be possible in our Universe.

[oil pan 4]

Now that the whole state of California is on fire because they decided to bet on turning fighting forest fires into a business model instead of practicing forestry they are predictably blaming climate change.
Climate change hasn't been putting out nearly all forest fires for the last 50 years.