The climate change movement: July 28, 1995 to August 14, 2020 RIP

[freebeard]

There probably won't be any ice-ages until after we're all extinct.

Social media is acting much faster than climate. It will be like the movie Children of Men.

[aerohead]

I've avoided it completely so far, and my goal is to make it through the remainder of my life without it.

[oil pan 4]

I'll take warming over an ice age any time.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Social media is acting much faster than climate. It will be like the movie Children of Men.

Listening to Peter Zeihan talk about global demography at about the 12min mark as I read your post.

Musk isn't wrong about us being wrong about what the true population crisis really is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfyrURHpUcM

[freebeard]

I don't know when I opened this tab, but I'm now listening to:

eeman Dyson: Heretical Thoughts About Science and Society

So far he has validated deep, hot abiotic oil and suggested that since Chyna can burn coal to put CO2 in the air, the USofA can extract the CO2 back out and turn it into topsoil.

Originally Posted by aerohead

I've avoided it completely so far, and my goal is to make it through the remainder of my life without it.

I'm thinking I might try Twitter if I can speak directly to Elon Musk. He might understand me.

[aerohead]

You're aware of course that, at a certain depth, the lithosphere is so hot that, it's impossible for 'liquid' oil to even exist?
There are no hydrocarbons which exist below a depth of 8-10 kilometers. They're destroyed by the heat.
https://www.planete-energies.com/en/...its-are-formed

[freebeard]

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Originally Posted by Freeman F-ing Dyson

a few months ago I was at
Cornell University celebrating the life of Tommie gold a famous astronomer who
died at a ripe old age he was famous as a heretic promoting unpopular ideas the
usually turned out to be right long ago I was a guinea pig in Tommy's experiments on human hearing
...
later in his life he promoted another heretical idea that the
oil and natural gas in the ground come up from deep in the mantle of the earth and have nothing to do with biology
again the experts are sure he is wrong and he didn't live long enough to change
their minds but just a few months ago some chemists at the clinic Institution
in Washington did a beautiful experiment in a diamond anvil cell they mixed
together tiny quantities of three things that we know exist in the mantle of the earth and observed them at the pressure
and temperature appropriate to the mantle about 200 kilometers down the three things were calcium carbonate
which is sedimentary rock an oxide which is a component of igneous rock and water
those three things are certainly present when a slab of subducted ocean floor
descends from a deep ocean trench into the mantle the experiment shows that
they react quickly to produce lots of methane which is natural gas so big
quantities of natural gas certainly exist in the mantle the chemist sent an
email to Tommy go to tell him their result and got back a message that he had died three days earlier now that
he's dead we need more heretics to take his place so now I must get ahead with
my own heresies

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

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So you've answered your own question. There is NO deep hydrocarbons in the Earth, that originated deep in the Earth.
Only recycled surface rocks containing atmospheric carbon, locked into the carbonate rock matrix, which subducted into the mantle during tectonic activity, along plate boundaries, over billions of years in the past.
Easy!

[freebeard]

For certain values of 'originated'?

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by freebeard

For certain values of 'originated'?

I believe it to be 'ALL.'
I diamond anvil in a lab isn't the real world.
We can't fool ( non-binary pronoun ) nature!