Considering a 2020 Ioniq EV

[redpoint5]

As some people know, my intention since joining this forum has been to eventually purchase an EV. I don't buy cars often, and I don't buy them new.

I sold the 2012 Prius Plug-in to a friend to make room in my wife's mind for another vehicle. Recently, used Model S prices have come down a little, but my wife doesn't want the associated image, and it's still more than I'd like to spend on a vehicle.

Somehow all this time I've ignored the Ioniq from Hyundai. The Kia Niro and Hyundai Kona get all the attention and have a bit more range and cost a bit more. The 2020 Ioniq gets a bump of about 10 kWh more than the 2017-2019, bringing the range to 170 miles, which is just about the sweet spot for my needs. Apparently that newfound range came at the expense of DCFC rate, with the older model capable of charging faster. Not an issue with me since I intend to (almost) never charge mid-trip.

Apparently the other change made to the 2020 Ioniq is liquid cooling/heating for the battery. The previous version was aircooled from cabin air similar to how a Prius manages the battery. Also, horsepower is up from a previous of 118, to 134. The MSRP increases by $2,755 which is very disappointing, but perhaps there will be discounting later on. The out the door MSRP for the base is $34,000 which seems quite steep to me for a 170 mile range vehicle.

Wondering if @NeilBlanchard has had a chance to drive one yet? He's a wealth of practical EV knowledge. Previously I was thinking a used Chevy Bolt was going to be my next purchase, but I'm contemplating new since it qualifies for the $7,500 tax credit and the Oregon $2,500 rebate.

With a variety of "affordable" EVs available now, this might be the year I finally take the plunge.

[ldjessee00]

As a Leaf owner, I am jealous of the extra range this car would have. Especially in the winter when the usable range is more like 70-80.

The active thermal management should also improve the longevity of the car compared to my Leaf. Also you will pay less new than the sticker was on my Leaf... If I had not gotten a huge discount from a deal between my power company and Nissan, I would have not bought a new Leaf, but a used one. Maybe check your power company if they have any deals on EVs?

Good luck and let us know what you decide or are considering. The Ioniq EV looks good.

[cowmeat]

I'll end up going to a full EV if I have any more issues with the Volt, and the Ioniq is the one that comes to mind out of the pack of them. The thermal protection is more Volt-like on the new one, that's a plus.

For now I'm sticking with the Volt though, since I've put about 1500 miles on it after the new transmission got installed with no issues so far. Since I rarely use it for anything other than my daily work commute it might as well be a straight-up EV anyway

I'll be checking in on this thread regularly to see if anybody gets any real world feel for the Ioniq

[redpoint5]

Bjorn video review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gh9n...ature=youtu.be

[NeilBlanchard]

I have not driven any of the Kia / Hyundai EVs. I think the Ioniq Electric is a good choice, as it is close to the highest efficiency EV and it coasts by default. 170 miles is very good for that size pack. Its a hatchback, which would be a must for me.

[aerohead]

I believe that the aerodynamics match Tesla.It's a very well-conceived product.The novel corona virus threatens production shutdown in S.Korea,as they're dependent upon Chinese sourcing.Hopefully the global pandemic will fissile.

[redpoint5]

I wonder how cargo space compares to other EVs, or specifically to the Prius I sold? I consider the Prius the minimum volume now that I've seen how quickly it fills up when going on a camping trip with the family.

I'll have to find out more details once people start taking delivery. The 2017-2019 model required BlueLink, a $10/mo subscription service, to preheat the cabin or set the charge limit. These are standard features on most other EVs usually configured in the main screen or activated with a keyfob.

Last night my wife said it "looked nerdy". She said she liked the RAV4 Prime way better. The exterior dimensions of the RAV4 are slightly smaller than the Prius, so that would seem to suggest the interior area is probably not any larger than the Prius.

[aerohead]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I wonder how cargo space compares to other EVs, or specifically to the Prius I sold? I consider the Prius the minimum volume now that I've seen how quickly it fills up when going on a camping trip with the family.

I'll have to find out more details once people start taking delivery. The 2017-2019 model required BlueLink, a $10/mo subscription service, to preheat the cabin or set the charge limit. These are standard features on most other EVs usually configured in the main screen or activated with a keyfob.

Last night my wife said it "looked nerdy". She said she liked the RAV4 Prime way better. The exterior dimensions of the RAV4 are slightly smaller than the Prius, so that would seem to suggest the interior area is probably not any larger than the Prius.

Ask her if nuclear submarines,NFL footballs, or commercial aircraft look nerdy? The Ioniq will have range the RAV4 could only dream of,all because of the 'look.'

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by aerohead

Ask her if nuclear submarines,NFL footballs, or commercial aircraft look nerdy? The Ioniq will have range the RAV4 could only dream of,all because of the 'look.'

That brings up my interior area question. No doubt the RAV4 is taller, but I don't need to stack things higher generally. The area is what matters to me, and if it's not much different, then I'd go with the Ioniq. I'll have to pay a visit to a toyota dealership (and Hyundai if any carry an Ioniq).

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

I wonder how cargo space compares to other EVs, or specifically to the Prius I sold? I consider the Prius the minimum volume now that I've seen how quickly it fills up when going on a camping trip with the family.

Last night my wife said it "looked nerdy". She said she liked the RAV4 Prime way better. The exterior dimensions of the RAV4 are slightly smaller than the Prius, so that would seem to suggest the interior area is probably not any larger than the Prius.

Prius has the most usuable interior volume amongst cars.

Many CUV’s and SUVs don’t have as much room as a Prius