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Old 09-02-2008, 02:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Consistent over 41MPG highway with Civic

I have about a 270 mile drive from home to school that I'll probably perform like once a month over the next year (x2 to come back of course). It's for the most part interstate or at least pretty open highway, though I do drive through some smaller cities along the way. On the drive home for Labor Day I calculated over 41MPG, and everyone told me "no that's crazy, the pump stopped too soon, next time it will be much lower," etc. But on the return trip yesterday I even broke 42MPG!

I did a lot of driving with load up the shorter hills, though on the really long ones I had to bite the bullet and use cruise control at like 63-64MPH. On flat areas I used cruise control at 65MPH or if the speed limit was 60 or 55 (it was just around the cities) cruise control at the limit. I did a lot of engine-on coasting, down hills, to decelerate for an exit or a lower speed limit, etc. The only "mod" besides my driving was inflating the tires to like 38PSI, just under sidewall max of 40PSI. AC was on the whole time, but the fan on its lowest setting.

Overall I just wanted to thank you guys, because otherwise I'd just have had the cruise control at 75 the whole time, burning it up going up hills and stuff without thinking about it, and probably getting like 34MPG. You can see about my vehicle in my sig.

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Old 09-02-2008, 04:28 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Good job! If you slow down to 55 mph max, I'd bet you would crack 45 mpg. It's tough to only drive 55, but worth it in the end. It might take you an extra 1/2 hour to get there, but a great opportunity to test some slower highway speeds and do some P&G.
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Old 09-02-2008, 04:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Very nice. Keep it up. As you refine your technique you'll only get better mileage.
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Old 09-02-2008, 05:57 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hey guys, thanks for the encouragement. When I drive home from school, I usually have my (impatient) brother aboard about two thirds of the journey, and 65 if pretty much the slowest I can go. But I think I will try going 55 during the 90 miles in between his school and mine next time and see if that makes a difference.
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I dunno if it would be better to have this in a different thread, but I have a question about going 55. There are some places where there are some pretty large hills (nothing crazy steep but there are some pretty steep hills, like on the other side I accelerate from 60 to 75 in neutral). I'd probably have to downshift into 4th, right? How should I negotiate these hills with lower speed to be most efficient? Some of them are so long that DWL wouldn't really work, as the slowdown would have to be very subtle to go from say 55 to 50 across the whole entire long hill...you know?
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If you find yourself accelerating to a speed that is too high on the down side of a hill I would first try to crest the hill at a lower speed (using less energy to get up and saving gas). If this is not possible, I would then put the car in gear to reduce or hold at or under your max speed. The reason I would recommend this is because while you are coasting in gear, you are using no fuel.

Does that answer your questions? I didn't quite understand your last part about DWL.
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Well I was really asking more about going UP the hill, not down it. Going 55 to 50 up some of these hills would probably make me downshift to 4th...I was wondering how exactly to negotiate that. Like should I stay in 5th for a while as I slow down from 55 to 50 then downshift and hold speed (no way I'll be under 50 going up these hills)? Should I just get into 4th at the start of the hill? I know the best thing to do will be experiment, so I'll figure it out, but just any spare wisdom anyone has....

As for coasting down hills, there are no hills that I go excessively fast on (not more than 5 over the speed limit) coasting in neutral. Wouldn't it be better to let myself get going faster downhill and use that momentum to stay in neutral up the hill for a little bit until I'm getting under 60 and then get back into gear? I know that is true at lower speeds, but at high speeds does the drag make so much difference I'd be better off engine breaking in 5th (so using zero fuel but speeding up less)?
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You can try cruising up the hill staying close to 55mph. For my accord, a big hill is usually 20-25 on the TPS reading on my scangauge. Your "big hills" may be steeper though. My Accord is an auto and doesn't downshift until the load goes above 90% as long as I'm not losing speed. So, I'd think 5th gear would be doable up a long hill.

It's gonna feel different than normal though. You'll be trying to hold speed, and not have much ability to accelerate. I can regularly break 45mpg in my Accord, so I'm sure you can whip that!!
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according to my sg i can get better or the same fe at wot int 5th as i can with1/2-1/4 throttle in 4th. i would say stay in higher gear till u cant take it any longer

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