Go Back   EcoModder Forum > Off-Topic > The Lounge
Register Now
 Register Now
 


Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-07-2012, 06:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: NY
Posts: 865
Thanks: 29
Thanked 111 Times in 83 Posts
"Conspicuous conservation"? An interesting discussion

Is driving a Prius all about making yourself look good rather than actually saving the planet? Here are some interesting thoughts about it:

Freakonomics: Saving the environment, or just showing off? | Marketplace from American Public Media

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 04-07-2012, 06:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
Diesel Addict/No Cure
 
cleanspeed1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 787

StolenHoopty - '90 Honda Accord EX

HvyDrnkr - '93 Cadillac Seville
Thanks: 130
Thanked 74 Times in 49 Posts
Driving a Prius did not become cool until the celebs started buying them, like hipster style is "poverty chic".
__________________
Volvo WIA42 VED-12 / 335 hp / 1300 ft/lbs / 9 mpg

Big n' Boxy, Never met a Hill it Didn't Like
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 08:44 AM   #3 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
JasonG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Charlotte NC / York SC
Posts: 728

05 DMax - '05 Chevrolet 2500HD
90 day: 18.48 mpg (US)
Thanks: 120
Thanked 56 Times in 52 Posts
Its like the folks around here buying Smart cars.
Some thing that small must get great mileage!
Wow, that tiny car must be great for the enviroment.
Last I checked they get mid 30s EPA
Funny thing is watching them fly by at 75MPH and knowing my wifes V-6 SUV going 60MPH is getting better mileage with all her tools and parts in the back.
A stock Accord/Corrola/Cobalt/small 4 door sedan typically gets the same mileage or better and can fit 4 plus luggage.

Why do people buy them ?
Sounds like "conspicuous conservation" doesn't it.
__________________



I can't understand why my MPG's are so low..........
21,000lb, 41' Toy Haulers are rough on FE!
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 09:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Ryland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Western Wisconsin
Posts: 3,903

honda cb125 - '74 Honda CB 125 S1
90 day: 79.71 mpg (US)

green wedge - '81 Commuter Vehicles Inc. Commuti-Car

Blue VX - '93 Honda Civic VX
Thanks: 867
Thanked 434 Times in 354 Posts
Only when I'm driving my 31 year old green wedge shaped electric car around, charged off wind power, I do get a little smug, then I pass someone on a bicycle and feel bad for being in a car again.
But I like weird vehicles too.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 09:29 AM   #5 (permalink)
Diesel Addict/No Cure
 
cleanspeed1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 787

StolenHoopty - '90 Honda Accord EX

HvyDrnkr - '93 Cadillac Seville
Thanks: 130
Thanked 74 Times in 49 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryland View Post
Only when I'm driving my 31 year old green wedge shaped electric car around, charged off wind power, I do get a little smug, then I pass someone on a bicycle and feel bad for being in a car again.
But I like weird vehicles too.
Naw dude, you are in the game for the right reasons. You have passion for this. Too many people just want to be poseurs. As long as it's fashionable, they are doing it, not because they actually give a care.
__________________
Volvo WIA42 VED-12 / 335 hp / 1300 ft/lbs / 9 mpg

Big n' Boxy, Never met a Hill it Didn't Like
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 12:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Ed-in-Maine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Maine
Posts: 69

Iceberg - '02 Ford F250 XLT
Pickups
90 day: 18.3 mpg (US)

Tool - '08 Toyota Matrix XR
Team Toyota
90 day: 43.15 mpg (US)
Thanks: 24
Thanked 18 Times in 7 Posts
I think the freak guys made a good point. I had to laugh out loud when they talked about wind mills on buildings in Japan that the power the motors to turn the blades to make it look "Green". Then I thought for a moment and got depressed
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 12:30 PM   #7 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
cbaber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Missouri
Posts: 540

Lean and Mean - '98 Honda Civic HX
Team Honda
90 day: 46.69 mpg (US)
Thanks: 30
Thanked 190 Times in 110 Posts
All the Prius's I see on the highway are driving at least 70 MPH. I am getting better mileage than them and it just makes me laugh to think about what we are talking about. If you really want to save money on gas or save the world, why would you be driving so inefficiently?

"Green" products are not going to save the world or reduce emissions. Humans have to be taught how to use the things we have in this world more efficiently. Just my opinion anyway.
__________________
1998 Honda Civic HX - My Project Thread

  Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 01:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
nemo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: US
Posts: 1,016

Chief - '06 Pontiac Grand Prix
90 day: 26.7 mpg (US)

SF1 - '12 Ford Fiesta S
90 day: 30.95 mpg (US)
Thanks: 195
Thanked 247 Times in 190 Posts
But isn't it far better than a Escalade or similar?
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2012, 01:43 PM   #9 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Earth
Posts: 5,209
Thanks: 225
Thanked 811 Times in 594 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbaber View Post
If you really want to save money on gas or save the world, why would you be driving so inefficiently?
Because your time is also of value? Because driving much slower (or faster) creates traffic congestion & causes accidents? Because life involves a lot of compromises, and the best compromise you can make is going 70 in a vehicle that doesn't use much gas doing it?

And if you're really serious about all that, why would you be driving anyway, instead of telecommuting?
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to jamesqf For This Useful Post:
GRU (04-08-2012), t vago (04-08-2012)
Old 04-08-2012, 09:18 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
larrybuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: sw Washington (state), a little north of Vancouver
Posts: 1,154
Thanks: 298
Thanked 122 Times in 88 Posts
Yes, but we are talking about the arrogant smugness that many Prius owners seem to have to display.

Such looks were common 2 decades ago w BMW, and Mercedes owners.

I personally think MOST, but not all Porsche people feel better than us.

I do like the 928 idea if they had recessed headlights.

Fads come and go, but human nature by and large stays the same.

I have seen a few smart cars being driven slowly ( the mpg is so bad they have to!),

and I have yet to see a Prius being driven conservatively!!!

__________________
06 Chev MonteC JG#24tribute car 30mpg 00 Honda Insight 63MPG 98 Buick Park Ave3.8 33MPG 89 Toyota Corolla wag 60MPG so far 81 VW Rabbit diesel pu 50MPG+ 80 Mercedes 240D stick 30-ish 90 vette 6-speed,29ish 07 Honda ST1300 55MPG 83 Honda 650 GL 64MPG 19 Suzuki dr200 88MPG23 HondaGrom?+Tow K10D Sub 26mpg NEVER,NEVER GIVE UP!
PUMP THOSE TIRES UP!
DRIVE IN YOUR SOCKS FOR SENSITIVITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SLOW DOWN AND SMOOTH UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![SIGPIC]
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com