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Old 08-31-2011, 03:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Or get her to start coasting from even further out.
It'll beat engine braking.
Ask Arragonis about the m8 at rushour...

its possibly one of the craziest places I know!

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Old 08-31-2011, 09:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Another vote for teaching anticipation and DWB first. Emphasize how this gets you there at the same speed, except that less fuel is burned. From there, ease into DWL. Once she starts adopting these techniques, mention how her brakes will last almost forever. Save the coastdown stuff for later.

I coast from 40 MPH down to 22-25 MPH for a left turn into work. A speed demon coworker found himself behind me one day. He was under the impression that I had delayed him by a good 30 seconds, then surprised when I went through the math and showed him that he was actually delayed by 4 seconds.
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Sounds like a decent person, JR, if he was willing to put his emotions aside and hear out the math.
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We work together. Besides, he's used to people in front of him. He mentioned going 60 MPH in that 35 limit once...
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on several of my older cars, it was possible to do something to the throttle cable so that you could limit the throttle input itself.
but they were all pre '90's so no OBD on them.

on my ranger, it was possible to tweak the ECU into doing just about the same thing (it was an auto) where in the shifting of gears you could set it to not surpass 3k rpm. but you could allow the final drive or overdrive to use the full range of RPM.
I never did it because aftermarket tuner and the chip tuning itself was beyond my immediate financial means.
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Another vote for teaching anticipation and DWB first. Emphasize how this gets you there at the same speed, except that less fuel is burned. From there, ease into DWL. Once she starts adopting these techniques, mention how her brakes will last almost forever. Save the coastdown stuff for later.

I coast from 40 MPH down to 22-25 MPH for a left turn into work. A speed demon coworker found himself behind me one day. He was under the impression that I had delayed him by a good 30 seconds, then surprised when I went through the math and showed him that he was actually delayed by 4 seconds.
Neat work!

I'm thinking that doing some basic timing over a week may be a plan at somepoint..

that way I can compare her normal driving to using DWB etc.. see what the change in fuel consumption vs time increase is
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on several of my older cars, it was possible to do something to the throttle cable so that you could limit the throttle input itself.
but they were all pre '90's so no OBD on them.

on my ranger, it was possible to tweak the ECU into doing just about the same thing (it was an auto) where in the shifting of gears you could set it to not surpass 3k rpm. but you could allow the final drive or overdrive to use the full range of RPM.
I never did it because aftermarket tuner and the chip tuning itself was beyond my immediate financial means.

Unfortunately, the car has fly by wire throttle.

Its a manual too,s o its got the right gearbox for hypermiling
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I'm thinking that doing some basic timing over a week may be a plan at somepoint..

that way I can compare her normal driving to using DWB etc.. see what the change in fuel consumption vs time increase is
After getting some baseline data - trip time and MPG, DWL and timing traffic lights are good places to start. They save fuel without increasing trip time. It's important to create positive impressions up front.
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After getting some baseline data - trip time and MPG, DWL and timing traffic lights are good places to start. They save fuel without increasing trip time. It's important to create positive impressions up front.
very good points!

I'll look at starting to discussing them next week- I'm off on holiday on the Thursday, so I'll be able to let her try the suggestions if she wants..
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Ask Arragonis about the m8 at rushour...

its possibly one of the craziest places I know!
Which bit of the M8 ? That bit around Cathedral Cross always annoys me - 5 lanes swapping back and forth and traffic merging from the outside No wonder it was named as the most stressful road in the UK last year.

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