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Old 10-29-2021, 03:18 PM   #31 (permalink)
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What Xist Said. You don't like the garden thing or the getto thing?

This $3200 @ month farxiga diabetes drug is really affecting my mental process for the worse

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Old 10-29-2021, 03:30 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I thought that you resented him saying his garden is ghetto.
I read it as [her] garden in the ghetto.

$3.2K is [more than] twice my monthly stipend.
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Old 04-12-2022, 06:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The coroplast panels arrived in Show Low! How do I attach them?! :D

I expected Home Depot to suggest the appropriate fasteners on the page for the coroplast, but it either suggested other coroplast or completely different products. When I searched someone suggested #14 x 1 in. Self-Drilling Screw with Neoprene Washer 1 lb.-Box (62-Pack), but even though i specified coroplast, that, like all of the other results I found, was for those long and narrow single-layer fiberglass sheets with corrugations inches wide, not coroplast.

In the questions and answers someone wrote "Can these withstand being in direct sunlight for extended periods of time?"
"We would not recommend this product for this application. Thank you."
Where else would you use them?!

I did find out that this is how you are supposed to join panels: 2 in. x 96 in. x 1/4 in. Thermoclear Polycarbonate Multi-Wall H-Channel

Since I didn't level the garden box or cut the studs to match its angle it leans. I had wanted to make braces from the metal shelves that I pulled out of the garage, but I was also thinking of using braces like these to secure the studs and fix the lean: 1-1/2 in. Zinc-Plated Corner Brace Value Pack (20-Pack).

I just need to bend them slightly.
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Old 04-15-2022, 12:14 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I bought those brackets and attached them to the bottom left of the front and back studs.

The two on each side seem to be holding.

Not all of the rafters were still attached, so I secured most of them with brackets, but I needed to save brackets for the studs.

I had a terrible time straightening the shed. I ended up putting a clamp on the last stud, and shoving a 24 between the clamp and the ground just so I could drill and screw a 24 across the front.

I dismantled half of one of the shelving units I pulled from the shed.

The vertical portion is made out of metal angle braces--like angle iron, but with plenty of screw holes.
I thought that I would need to cut each one in half, but it turns out that they are two pieces screwed together, so they should work just fine.

However, Mom would rant and rave if she saw how rusty they are.

I washed off them and left them to dry. I would just put a coat of Rustoleum on them, but when you search for "Can I Use Rustoleum over Rust" it said "Sure, just remove the rust first!"

So, no?

I picked up the coroplast and screws with washers.
I hoped to install them, but I am pretty sure that I should ensure the greenhouse won't lean again.
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Rustoleum will change the color of the rust, but according to Neil 'don'tlistentomymusic' Young -- Rust Never Sleeps.

My life is a struggle against rust. wire brush and sandpaper or steel wool, then Naval Jelly. Put it on, agitate with a brush until it turns from pink to gray, then wipe most of it off and reapply. Don't let it dry or wash it off.

I get it that there are studs and rafters, but it's not clear if they are for the shed or the greenhouse. But in any case, cubes are inherently unstable. They need triangulation or shear panels. Put in diagonal braces or gusset the corners.

Good luck, we're counting on you.
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CLR will still do something, right?
The shed seems sturdy enough, although some say my drywall on 24" OC studs will fail and everyone will laugh at me.

I hope that the four diagonal braces that I will treat, prime, paint, and install will make the shed at least as sturdy as the two 24s I used today.
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Old 04-20-2022, 05:55 PM   #37 (permalink)
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CLR just made a mess.

I keep trying to use materials I already have for this project. I spent 15 minutes using my drill and a wire cup brush, but while it immediately removed the paint, it didn't seem to do much to the rust.

I have 99% of a bottle of Ospho, but no good way to apply it. I guess that the best I could do would be to soak some paper towels and weave them between the pieces of metal.

I carefully stacked and slid them into a kitchen garbage bag and tightened some zip ties around them. I poured some Ospho in there and, as I feared, it started to leak out, and it actually ate the surface of the driveway.

I put everything in a pitcher in a bucket in the garage and went back to work, but most of it stayed in the bag, and it seemed to work.

I need to treat the other end, clean, prime, paint, and install.

Those H-channels are $22 each on-line only and are actually for LEXAN Thermoclear multi-wall sheet, which is $88 each, although "10 year limited warranty against yellowing and hail damage" sounds like the right product.

It looks like you are supposed to buy U-channels for the edges, but I don't see anything for corners.

I was thinking that I wouldn't cut the pieces for the front corners, just the top, and would fold the edges over, so I could use H-channels on flat surfaces.

I think that you want to mount the coroplast like drywall, with joints on studs, but I don't understand how you would screw through each sheet through the H-channel, which isn't flat.

Home Depot does suggest screws like I bought for those sheets. I bought screws with neoprene and metal washers for metal roofs.

I don't know that I will be able to work on anything today, Mom is sending me to fix the Internet of her friend whose son lives with her and is a chain smoker.
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IIRC Ospho is to phosphate the surface after the rust is removed. I have an Art Deco shelf that I derusted and phosphated, every few years I scour it with steel wool and recoat it. Works fine indoors.
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I swear that I made a sterile version of this:

This version would fit better:

They would charge $53.15 to ship 10 8-foot lengths, compared to $193.70 for Home Depot's version.

One of those deals is significantly better than the other!
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I saw that cross section but it was 3/32" and I thought you need 3/4". That would offer opportunity for fasteners down the sides.

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