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Old 05-09-2022, 02:06 AM   #61 (permalink)
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That greenhouse looked better built than some shacks that I have seen in Brazilian slums

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Old 05-09-2022, 03:55 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Hopefully now it withstands the wind!
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I needed to log in five times before I stayed logged in!

I went to install the door knob and the closer, but I need to buy the right-angle clamp, pull the other two screws, fill the holes, re-drill, and then drive the screws again.

I can straighten the door, but I feel it is too much force for the hardware.
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The wind is blowing the roof off of the greenhouse



I am pretty sure that it is not supposed to do that!

The edges are disintegrating, so UV made it brittle, despite my treatment.

The walls don't seem brittle, though, but the wind couldn't grab it like the roof, especially since the wall siding overlaps each other, but only the top roof panel overlaps the others, but then it was easier for the wind to catch it.

These are the correct panels, $90 each, but currently unavailable from Home Depot.

These are the $22 connectors, although we found ones for a fraction of the price.

These are the correct panels, $86 each, but currently unavailable from Lowe's.

Lowe's showed 2 in-stock, which wasn't enough, and I couldn't find anything like it in town, so I figured that I would need to screw a 2x4 to the front edge to hold down the old sheet until I could replace it.

I would just need to rent a truck twice to transport 1-2 sheets of plastic each time.

These are the $11 connectors at Lowe's.

I figured that I needed the connectors because this isn't flexible like coroplast.

I haven't had a chance to install them yet, I was busy with Mom's 75th birthday.


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The greenhouse needs to come down.

Could I build a greenhouse?

Absolutely.

Did the coroplast work?

Briefly.

Can I just cut 3 sides of the door and use the coroplast itself as a hinge?

Maybe, but I didn't use enough reinforcement.

Does one simply use roofing screws?

No, the plastic disintegrates around it.
Also, I asked what the proper torque specs were, and everyone ignored me, but when I accidentally tightened excessively, which is incredibly easy with coroplast, the siding popped loose.

Would it have worked with larger washers?

Maybe. In theory you could go up to 1.5" without blocking sunlight, but I think the best way would have been to screw a 1x2 on every surface.

Since this didn't need to be inspected, can one simply spread the studs equidistantly?

Only if you want to cause yourself frustrations.

The panels are 48x96, so you need studs every 16 or 24".

Maybe 24" would have been enough to support plastic walls, although I got up on top to attach the roof--twice.

I think that it is about 10x12, so it should have 8 studs one way, and 9 the other, although I only had four studs on the shorter sides.

Again, since this only supported plastic walls, there was no need to double up on the corners, so in theory this should have had 30 studs, plus 9 rafters, so I would have needed 39 1x2s just to fasten the siding.

They are currently $1.65 each, so it would have cost $64.35, and less than one correct panel, but the roof disintegrated, and I fear that it is only a matter of time before the walls do, too.

I bought some clear duct tape that was supposed to be UV safe to patch up damage and it seemed to work.

Maybe wrapping it around exposed edges would at least contain broken plastic, if not protect it, but the only possible way I could see of making translucent coroplast work would be with a layer of the expensive stuff on top, for twice the negligible insulation.

Can't you UV-treat it?

I bought a bottle of UV treatment for $62 and all that it seemed to do was make it sticky.

Sixty-four dollars for 1x2s, $62 for UV treatment that didn't work, and $8 for tape to repair damage.

This is still maybe half the price of doing it right, but I just don't see any way of making this work.

Actually, my first proof-of-concept was buying drop cloths, which were also supposed to last longer than they did, and that was where I first got the idea of using 1x2s.

The wind immediately ripped off the plastic.

I think that I used 3 $20 dropcloths and then paid $80 for proper UV-resistant plastic.

Maybe 1x2s would have kept that safe, but can you imagine having a greenhouse that couldn't withstand a simple poke?

I could just use the tape, but still, it would not be ideal.

Bob Vila indicates that a professional greenhouse would cost about $20 per square foot, with Mom's being around $1,600. How Much Does a Greenhouse Cost?

I paid:
$10 for tape
30 for screws
60 for dropcloths
60 for UV treatment that didn't work
80 for proper plastic that I didn't use
280 for disposable coroplast
280 or so for proper panels
$800 just trying to make Mom happy, but she refuses to be happy, and refused to use my $800 greenhouse.

Would she have used a professional one?

I doubt it, even if she told me to order one.

She gave me permission to build this, a lot of good that did.
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End of the road? Are you going to try again?

Lumber blocks sunlight. Fuller's Plydome is frameless.

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/...fig2_289707025

Coroplast and zip ties should be enough.
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I want to remove the coroplast, throw it away, put the expensive stuff somewhere safe even though it will inevitably be destroyed, attach siding and a proper roof, and use it for storage, but I would still need to step up into a shed with a dirt floor--dirt for which I paid good money, and I hauled around the house myself.

I have the portable garage, though, and you can't tell there was ever grass where I used the tent for temporary storage, so I need to finally set it up, drag Chorizo inside, and move everything I can from the shed into the back of the portable garage so I can finish renovating the shed.

All of the wood from the greenhouse will just go back into the lumber pile.

I built something. It has stood for 18 months. It isn't perfect by any means, but it is useful.

I don't know how many people have built something this big, by themselves, without any training, a guide, or anything, I just figured it out, and made something, but toxic people choose to try to tear down others, instead of accomplishing anything themselves.
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I decided that I won't completely tear down the greenhouse, I will remove the roof and cut off all but 30" of the front and side walls.
Then I will dig back the soil, install 30" cedar walls from fence boards, cut an opening in the front raised garden wall, and build cedar walls on each side of a 2' path.
I will convert an 8x10 raised garden that is only 8" high to two 4x8 gardens 30" high, with a greenhouse panel above the back to keep trees and bushes from growing into the garden.
Will Mom like it?
Probably not, but if I plant a bunch of tomato plants there she will need to take care of them, right?
Right?!
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Funny looking tomato leaves. But I feel for the dude. Last year I was finally getting ripe tomatos the day the temps went to 20f on thanksgiving day.

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