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Old 07-16-2009, 09:45 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Polypropylene can be welded.

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Build a mold and a huge oven? Seriously?

Chances are you don't want to make a straight 90 degree duct. Tapering puts you at odds with the "grain".

It can be bent easily without slitting by using a heat gun. Heat guns are also very easy to regulate; by only applying the minimum heat necessary to do your shaping you can keep warpage and rippling way down. Even somewhat compound curves can be formed... but convex only, they get rippley on the concave side.

Chances are good you'll be better off going multi-piece and using something to join them together. I say that because chances are your edges will be curves and not straight lines. Good luck making a one-piece bend with curvature.

Coroplast has butt-ugly edges anyway. This is your chance to cover them up. I've used plastic extrusion for covering edges. In the future I may use it for joining too.

I've used screws with washers, spring-loaded wire retainers, you name it for holding that stuff together.
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Polypropylene can be welded.
I recently heard about that - ultrasonic welding, I believe. I have no information about though.
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I recently heard about that - ultrasonic welding, I believe. I have no information about though.
Well ultrasonic aside, polypropylene melts at 130–171C.
I've made some wax positives for casting and welding wax is quite simple with a soldering iron, though that was at around 90C. I used a light dimmer switch to control the temp.
For the poly it would be more difficult as it is far more sticky. But welding cloro would be far more tricky as it's so thin. Though if someone really wanted to it could likely be pulled off. Some sort of mold to hold the joint would be very beneficial. If that mold was then lined with wet paper towels it would prevent the outside from melting, and make it possible to build up a beefy slag on the inside.
Or a different method would be to heat both connecting surfaces and bond them. Maybe set up the joint, and then run a soldering iron between them, so that the weld is made 2in or less behind the iron.

These ideas all sound honorable in comparison to basic glue and mechanical fasteners. You can get some rather complex shapes by building a simple frame out of wood (or what ever you like) and a little bending and cutting
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I've always been quite satisfied using real silicon seal (not paintable) but if you really want welding, one way might be to use a few nails to fasten an overlap area. Then separate the surfaces until the nails are almost free. Then, string magnesium ribbon along the middle of the gap. Then, flash it off with a jolt of electricity and slam the assembly back together.
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Gluing Coroplast

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I just saw that instructable today too. i will add another little tip to his mini coroplast brake. i score coroplast with a pizza wheel to get it to bend. i need to try a heat gun to set the bend though. he had some great tips on that instructable. and a bike capable of cruising at 45 mph
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Check the Coroplast website for their recommendations. As I recall they listed RTV silicone sealant as the adhesive of choice. I overlap and use zip ties myself without scoring 4mm stock. I developed my techniques to fit the skills of my 12-14 year old students. I design using manila folders or cereal box material to make quarter scale models to get the curves I want.
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Yeah, I wish he'd tested his choices against my old faves, Silicon Seal (not paintable grade) and Latex Contact Cement.

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