10-17-2013, 08:09 PM
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P.S.--lubricating a gun or cannon is not the same as lubricating an engine.
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10-22-2013, 12:08 AM
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P.S.--lubricating a gun or cannon is not the same as lubricating an engine.
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That and meeting milspec for a weapons lube is not all that special.
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12-13-2013, 12:49 AM
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Sorry about the delay. The Space Co bearing company in Japan tested COFof DiamondLube and rated it at .0008 - Teflon is .04 so...
By treating everything that moves on a semi, what else could happen?
Someone mentioned that testing should be easy, but it gets tricky when the tester wants to keep the results secret because it gives them the edge. Like treating the Chicago Wolves Hockey teams skates. One treatment eliminated Ice Steel contact and the results were instantaneous - no blade sharpening required, faster skating and longer glide times. How long will the skates go without sharpening, they want to keep it secret and wont call me back. Got video of their sewing machine before and after too, same thing - faster as usual. Check out ebay.com look for ICE SKATE LUBE.
BTW, I don't have a lubricant which seems to confuse people, I have a diamond coating that is self lubricating which is something nobody else has seen before, including ARGONNE that said my material was unknown before I sent them a sample.
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I doubt that getting rid of all of the friction in the whole engine would give 15%, let alone just replacing the lube.
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12-13-2013, 05:53 AM
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I know diamonds are not really made from coal but they are pretty much carbon, right? So, like, coal dust in your oil should work the same. As long as it's ground up real good.
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12-13-2013, 07:29 AM
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The proof it works is right on the webpage with the racer winning his first race ever. I have a dyno sheet on the testing page showing a 20% increase in HP and no negative feedback on ebay.
Its a shame that basic understanding of science in the USA hast been lost over the years. Someone said that scraping the burnt bread off toast should increase fuel economy if added to oil because that's carbon too. I didn't realize where I was, cancel my membership please.
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P.S.--lubricating a gun or cannon is not the same as lubricating an engine.
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12-13-2013, 09:31 AM
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There may be something to this.
The properties and applications of nanodiamonds
http://web.ornl.gov/sci/first/public...4VMochalin.pdf
Tribology and lubrication. (bottom of page 19)
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Tribology and lubrication The addition of diamond-containing detonation soot to lubricants49 decreases fuel consumption by ~5% and makes engines last longer. It was assumed that this happened because the graphite in the soot lubricated while the nanodiamonds reduced friction by polishing away asperities on sliding surfaces. However, purified nanodiamond itself provides enhanced tribological performance when dispersed alone or with polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) or metal nanoparticles in greases or oils116. Initially it was assumed that the nanodiamonds acted as ‘ball bearings’, but this has not been confirmed as universal in more recent studies117, which suggests that different lubrication mechanisms could be at work in different systems. For example, embedding nanodiamond from a lubricant into a carbon steel surface may explain reduced friction and wear, whereas the wear mechanism for an aluminium alloy is dominated by the viscosity of the nanodiamond suspension117.
The versatile surface chemistry of nanodiamond means that it can be tailored so that it disperses in a variety of different systems, including oil and water118. Carbon onions can also act as an efficient lubricant119, probably owing to the microscopic ball-bearing action. Overall, lubrication is more complex than it seems at first, but it is reasonable to assume that both nanodiamonds and carbon onions embedded into metal surfaces separate the sliding surfaces and prevent wear caused by metal–metal adhesion.
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Definition of Tribology
Tribology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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12-13-2013, 09:34 AM
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Microdermabrasion for my engine is a great idea, but the diamond stuff is pricey. KaleCoAuto has something similar for a lot less.
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12-13-2013, 03:45 PM
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Not even the same thing.
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DiamondLube has a lot to prove, but he is right on one thing, the level of understanding sometimes displayed on this forum is appalling.
On a side note, nano diamonds are not the only material to display lubricant qualities at the nano scale. I have used Nano titanium powders imbedded on 1020 steel gear sets in prototype testing (as a test of fit and function ) and have found they exhibit negligible wear after 100 hour test runs. The gear sets were not hardened so this is very surprising. I cannot say they reduced friction as that was not measured and a heavy silicon oil was used as the carrier lubricant.
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12-13-2013, 03:53 PM
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DiamondLube has a lot to prove, but he is right on one thing, the level of understanding sometimes displayed on this forum is appalling.
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ummm.....it's a forum.......not a Ph.D study group.
In the world of forums there are several levels. Ecomodder is in the 'general' level. Not 'academic' or 'professional'. At the general level I would say we are at least top 10%.
Come on.......buck up. Filter thru the crap and keep plowing.
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12-13-2013, 04:06 PM
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It's just a high level of skepticism, especially towards unproven claims. Of products being sold to individuals from websites. Instead of to car companies who would probably be buying it by the case.
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Transmission type Efficiency
Manual neutral engine off.100% @∞MPG <----- Fun Fact.
Manual 1:1 gear ratio .......98%
CVT belt ............................88%
Automatic .........................86%
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