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Old 02-22-2012, 12:06 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Mhmm... 100% veggie oil smells even better.
I wonder... Do you suppose cocoa butter would work?

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Old 02-22-2012, 12:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I wonder... Do you suppose cocoa butter would work?
If you could keep it liquid.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:03 PM   #13 (permalink)
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fuel warmer? or not 100% cocoa butter I presume. maybe add some jojoba or another liquid oil to the mix

cocoa butter melting point is about 93 degrees

I prefer the smell of Dunkin donuts fryer oil.
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Mhmm... 100% veggie oil smells even better.
You can't run WVO or B100 in new diesels that come with DPF .
The current breed of DPFs is actually blocking the renewable fuels option on diesels.
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You can't run WVO in new diesels that come with DPF .
Not that I advocate burning vegetable oil at all in modern diesels (I don't), but it's not the DPF that is the problem, it's the wasteful way in which they burn out the DPF to keep it clear. There would be no issue with biofuels at all if the diesel manufacturer installed a low pressure fuel injector into the DPF itself to burn it off instead of injecting fuel into the cylinders, post ignition, allowing liquid fuel into the engine oil.
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Most manufacturers have now stepped up to B20. Also many are starting to use an external injector due to oil dilution issues, it just wasn't apparent as a problem in 2008.
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fuel warmer? or not 100% cocoa butter I presume. maybe add some jojoba or another liquid oil to the mix
Yeah, I didn't mean straight cocoa butter, just enough to make the exhaust smell like chocolate :-)
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You can't run WVO or B100 in new diesels that come with DPF .
The current breed of DPFs is actually blocking the renewable fuels option on diesels.
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Not that I advocate burning vegetable oil at all in modern diesels (I don't), but it's not the DPF that is the problem, it's the wasteful way in which they burn out the DPF to keep it clear. There would be no issue with biofuels at all if the diesel manufacturer installed a low pressure fuel injector into the DPF itself to burn it off instead of injecting fuel into the cylinders, post ignition, allowing liquid fuel into the engine oil.
It's a point of discussion on biodiesel boards, the different consistency of the biodiesel causing the extra squirt to stick to the cylinders and wash into the oil instead of going into the DPF as regular diesel do. And there's no quick fix to this.

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Most manufacturers have now stepped up to B20. Also many are starting to use an external injector due to oil dilution issues, it just wasn't apparent as a problem in 2008.
Hopefully they all follow suit.
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Also many are starting to use an external injector due to oil dilution issues
Which manufacturer uses an extra injector in the exhaust to regenerate the DPF ?
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Not that I advocate burning vegetable oil at all in modern diesels (I don't), but it's not the DPF that is the problem, it's the wasteful way in which they burn out the DPF to keep it clear.
Sure, but as far as I know, all current production DPFs use in-cylinder post-injection - effectively ruling out high biodiesel % in the fuel.

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