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Old 09-20-2012, 06:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Do Metros, Aspires, or Civic vx's have anti-lock brakes ABS?

Im envious of these cars, though I cannot justify puchasing them if they do not have abs, since I live in New York where winters are very uncomfortable without abs.

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Old 09-20-2012, 11:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i've lived in michigan since the age of 5, started driving at 14, been licensed since 16....

not once have i driven a car with functional ABS in slippery conditions.

and i haven't flown off of the road or otherwise been in a situation that ABS would have saved me from.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I've never had abs... just have to be careful, like you should be.
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Old 09-20-2012, 11:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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My 1992 Civic VX definitely does not have anti-lock brakes.

If you're giving yourself sufficient distance to try and minimize braking though, they shouldn't be a significant factor, assuming someone doesn't cut you off and slam on their brakes.

I grew up driving classic VW's in AK without problems, honestly you just apply many of the same principals as you would to hypermiling. Allow 3-4x 'regular' summertime stopping distance if there is any concern of ice and follow other cars a safe distance to prevent concerns of panicked stops.
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Old 09-21-2012, 12:18 AM   #6 (permalink)
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No, no, and no.

Learn about "threshold braking", take a course, get some decent winter tires.
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Old 09-21-2012, 05:08 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I live in AK, ABS is not some magic talisman that will keep you from crashing. Learn to drive. (edit: big +1 for getting proper winter tires anyone can out accelerate, out corner, and out stop any AWD car with run of the mill tires, in a front wheel drive econobox with kick but winter tires)

In fact as far as percentages go I see more cars/trucks in the ditch or causing accidents that have all those nifty save you when it's slippery features. They give a false sense of security so the operators don't really learn to drive.
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abs on most car don't work unless you panic stop(ie hit the brakes hard), i've driven several cars with abs; most of the time your not using it.

ps. abs is dead weight brought to you by the nanny patrol(along with airbags)
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Thanks for all the replies. Apparently all 95-01 metros did have optional abs.

"ps. abs is dead weight brought to you by the nanny patrol(along with airbags)"
So your saying airbags should be removed?

threshold braking and good winter tires are reasonable

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Your questions got me thinking: I've owned roughly 20 cars or so. Only one (the latest one - 12 year old Honda Insight) has had ABS. Or air conditioning, for that matter!

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