Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-07-2020, 01:12 PM   #31 (permalink)
Cyborg ECU
 
California98Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Coastal Southern California
Posts: 6,299

Black and Green - '98 Honda Civic DX Coupe
Team Honda
90 day: 66.42 mpg (US)

Black and Red - '00 Nashbar Custom built eBike
90 day: 3671.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,373
Thanked 2,172 Times in 1,469 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by BamZipPow View Post
"ChamPrius" is a basjoos redux if ever there was one (from design to build techniques). Awesome.

__________________
See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.



  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 02-08-2020, 05:57 PM   #32 (permalink)
Master EcoWalker
 
RedDevil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,999

Red Devil - '11 Honda Insight Elegance
Team Honda
90 day: 52.82 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,714
Thanked 2,247 Times in 1,455 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
[citation needed]
The one thing you can't say about it is that it is pointless...
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.2 Gmeter or 0.13 Mmile.


For confirmation go to people just like you.
For education go to people unlike yourself.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to RedDevil For This Useful Post:
freebeard (02-08-2020)
Old 02-09-2020, 12:00 AM   #33 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,230

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 30.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,229 Times in 1,719 Posts
ChamPrius!

With that name I found a few others. The few positive comments from Reddit:
"This is actually the car of a physics professor at umass. He’s known for being eccentric. He claims he gains an extra 5mpg on the highway."
Quote:
For anyone that's interested:

This is Champrius, a heavily modded Prius made by Kim Lumbard (you can find him on Instagram at kimlumbard). I've met him in real life (he is one of my mother's friends). That car has a solar panel, refrigerator, bed, and much more.

He recently succeeded in finishing his goal of getting a ticket in all 50 states (Alaska was the last state, we saw him right before he made his way up there).
Can someone clean up this image?
Jalopnik posted about it almost a year ago: Check Out the Awesome Gas-Saving Modifications on This Hypermiling Toyota Prius
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Dy9yUJtXcAUrQ05.jpg
Views:	3568
Size:	40.3 KB
ID:	27541  
__________________
"Oh if you use math, reason, and logic you will be hated."--OilPan4
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Xist For This Useful Post:
aerohead (02-12-2020), BamZipPow (02-11-2020)
Old 02-09-2020, 02:08 AM   #34 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,230

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 30.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,229 Times in 1,719 Posts
What I learned from one year of Instagram posts from the ChamPrius owner (image heavy)

First of all, I do not understand Instagram. The first time that I heard of it the silly girl said "It is like Facebook, but just pictures!" The result was that it loaded slower than something with more text.

The ChamPrius has burned oil since he bought it, he needed to replace the cat, and he installed an oil catch can to reduce oil burning.

It sounds like his belly pan originally covered the CC, but the mechanic said this would not have caused a problem, burning oil did.

The full name is Champrius Pukonversion because the cat caused a rotting smell and so did the vent hoses on the hybrid battery.

"Coroplast, which is short for corrugated plastic." I never thought about that!

The exhaust tip is connected by a flexible joint, which failed, trapping the heat inside of the belly pan.

He once accidentally left his car running for two days straight.

So, pictures:
He has a heated blanket under his mattress. If he sleeps with the engine off this half-drains his 12v battery:

His side skirts trapped a great amount of debris:

Belly pan:

Side skirts:

He put dryer hose in his side skirts to maintain their shape:

The plexiglas has cracked at least once:

The big hole is supposed to release the heat produced by the catalytic converter. The front flap is the inlet:

Heat failure:

The belly pan trapped debris, too:

His original front side skirts, which made the car quieter, but did not improve fuel economy. He removed them when he realized they floated outward, negating their benefit:

Basjoos style:

Wiper deflectors!:

Closing the wheel gap:

Parking lot hit and run:
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	49933704_1116072045230335_6429020588714581358_n.jpg
Views:	3464
Size:	66.0 KB
ID:	27544   Click image for larger version

Name:	53421279_2528582743878679_3855556015089129460_n.jpg
Views:	3442
Size:	75.3 KB
ID:	27545   Click image for larger version

Name:	61202345_119300575956710_2709453090038147253_n.jpg
Views:	3396
Size:	57.9 KB
ID:	27546   Click image for larger version

Name:	61202821_691561897943510_5216286597785714196_n.jpg
Views:	3445
Size:	74.8 KB
ID:	27547   Click image for larger version

Name:	61480188_384844302127221_6092515029778152978_n.jpg
Views:	3389
Size:	76.7 KB
ID:	27548  

Click image for larger version

Name:	66643852_1473493692792331_5539839517852783271_n.jpg
Views:	3389
Size:	52.8 KB
ID:	27549   Click image for larger version

Name:	66686138_1167085473478239_8518768199957140676_n.jpg
Views:	3419
Size:	53.0 KB
ID:	27550   Click image for larger version

Name:	67093486_884737355224247_807826164734653751_n.jpg
Views:	3406
Size:	52.7 KB
ID:	27551   Click image for larger version

Name:	67653500_404430936867095_7228237895479514573_n.jpg
Views:	3405
Size:	55.2 KB
ID:	27552   Click image for larger version

Name:	69721453_135110467768390_8479609834921267410_n.jpg
Views:	3450
Size:	68.3 KB
ID:	27553  

Click image for larger version

Name:	70998728_2467748573306600_3106352649078423434_n.jpg
Views:	3385
Size:	38.8 KB
ID:	27554   Click image for larger version

Name:	73274738_2503749009903583_6272037332497705751_n.jpg
Views:	3384
Size:	64.1 KB
ID:	27555   Click image for larger version

Name:	73414152_1264414907076100_7942987267905497459_n.jpg
Views:	3438
Size:	73.2 KB
ID:	27556   Click image for larger version

Name:	76911089_168737257843044_8515741963894730724_n.jpg
Views:	3352
Size:	64.6 KB
ID:	27557  
__________________
"Oh if you use math, reason, and logic you will be hated."--OilPan4
  Reply With Quote
The Following 13 Users Say Thank You to Xist For This Useful Post:
aerohead (02-12-2020), BamZipPow (02-11-2020), California98Civic (02-17-2020), Cd (10-31-2020), COcyclist (02-23-2020), Fit_is_slo (02-23-2020), freebeard (02-09-2020), Gasoline Fumes (02-19-2020), MetroMPG (02-18-2020), NeilBlanchard (02-28-2020), RedDevil (02-19-2020), Vman455 (02-10-2020), woodstock74 (01-27-2023)
Old 02-09-2020, 02:19 AM   #35 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,230

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 30.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,229 Times in 1,719 Posts
That is it! This is the last time that I am working on someone else's project! I squared up the informational image, but typed it up below:

This hybrid is named
Champrius
She used to get 40 MPG, but now gets
60+ MPG
The modifications make her more aerodynamic.

The biggest contributors to fuel economy are:
  1. This tail, reducing turbulence on the back
  2. The grill blocking in the front near the radiator
  3. Some belly pans on the underside
  4. The moon disc hubcaps smoothing the wheels
She also has many minor changes like deflectors around the windshield wipers and door handles.

The goal is to achieve triple-diit MPG. Future mods:
  • Finish the belly pans the whole length of the car
  • Put a better nose on, removing the stagnation point
  • Catamaran the wheel wells and tighten the air flow
Feel free to follow the madness: @KimLumbard.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Untitled.jpg
Views:	3392
Size:	34.0 KB
ID:	27558  
__________________
"Oh if you use math, reason, and logic you will be hated."--OilPan4

Last edited by Xist; 06-16-2022 at 06:26 PM.. Reason: I a word.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Xist For This Useful Post:
aerohead (02-12-2020), BamZipPow (02-11-2020), freebeard (02-09-2020), hayden55 (02-10-2020), MetroMPG (02-18-2020), RedDevil (02-19-2020), woodstock74 (01-27-2023)
Old 02-09-2020, 02:27 AM   #36 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,520
Thanks: 8,073
Thanked 8,870 Times in 7,322 Posts
Thanks for all that work, liberating the data.

I think front wheel skirts need to be on a four-bar linkage instead of a top hinge. Then you just add weight to the bottom or bungies to hold them down.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
Xist (02-09-2020)
Old 02-10-2020, 03:46 PM   #37 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: USA
Posts: 1,171

Sport Utility Prius - '10 Toyota Prius II
90 day: 52.98 mpg (US)

300k Sequoia 4WD - '01 Toyota Sequoia Limited 4wd
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)
Thanks: 352
Thanked 268 Times in 215 Posts
This guy sounds like blackandgreen
__________________
"I feel like the bad decisions come into play when you trade too much of your time for money paying for things you can't really afford."
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-17-2020, 04:45 PM   #38 (permalink)
Cyborg ECU
 
California98Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Coastal Southern California
Posts: 6,299

Black and Green - '98 Honda Civic DX Coupe
Team Honda
90 day: 66.42 mpg (US)

Black and Red - '00 Nashbar Custom built eBike
90 day: 3671.43 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2,373
Thanked 2,172 Times in 1,469 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by hayden55 View Post
This guy sounds like blackandgreen
Lol!

EDIT: ... my blackandgreen is way simpler and gets roughly the same FE.
__________________
See my car's mod & maintenance thread and my electric bicycle's thread for ongoing projects. I will rebuild Black and Green over decades as parts die, until it becomes a different car of roughly the same shape and color. My minimum fuel economy goal is 55 mpg while averaging posted speed limits. I generally top 60 mpg. See also my Honda manual transmission specs thread.




Last edited by California98Civic; 02-17-2020 at 04:59 PM..
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to California98Civic For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (02-17-2020)
Old 02-18-2020, 04:54 PM   #39 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,527

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 54.46 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car Mirage - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 62.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,078
Thanked 6,976 Times in 3,612 Posts
Thanks for posting all that, Xist! You earned that t-shirt.


If he "used to get 40 MPG", I'd like to know more about how fast he typically drives, and the highway/city mix.



I suspect it'd get waaay higher than 60 MPG driven in my typical environment (ie. mostly on the scenic route/back roads with 50 mph / 80 kph limits).
__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2022, 04:49 PM   #40 (permalink)
Righteous Imaginarian
 
Talos Woten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Aliquippa PA
Posts: 107

Champrius v3.2 - '09 Toyota Prius
90 day: 58.73 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 104 Times in 53 Posts
Thumbs up All your questions, answered!

Quote:
Originally Posted by BamZipPow View Post
Since the owner installed his license plate on the rear of the tail, wouldn't reverse lights need to be installed as well? I believe that the side markers need to be red fer the rear as well. I'm not sure about the requirement fer a rear bumper on cars though unless the owner considers the tail to be the bumper.
Hey all!

I'm the creator and owner of Champrius, the car pictured here.

She has all mirrors, they are just tiny. US interstate law says we need 10 sq in of area, and that's all I have. In addition, there are three rear cams: one center for backup, and two angled at 45 degrees for either lane.

The thing sticking out of the end was a flexible tailpipe. Which broke, flooded my tail with hot gas, melted my rear bumper, and destroyed version 2.0 of the boat tail. The current exhaust is under the tail, in a welded on steel pipe.

Champrius has been featured in many places including Sloppy Mechanics, Jalopnik, TikTok, and my personal favorite: ****ty Car Mods.

Parallel parking is fine. So is parking in parking spots, etc.

It is indeed a camper. She's Champrius, the Champion Camping Prius. I use her for extended road trips and camping excursions. She's got a fridge, stove, foam mattress bed, signal booster for internet, and all the comforts of home.

I used to have a flexible solar panel, under the tail canopy. Those things are crap and should be avoided at all costs. After three of them failing in quick succession and a whole lot of hassle, I slapped a rigid solar panel on the back and never looked back. I haven't had any problems with it yet, years later.

No glass has been removed. There's white vinyl on it, to reduce heat and for a modicum of privacy. Part of the roof has been removed. I made a small hole with a vent to a temperature controlled fan, to cool automatically when it gets hot. That's also where I route my signal booster.

PM me if you want my address to send me an Ecomodder sticker.

I'm unfamiliar with Judd Engles in Ohio. I'm very familiar with the Aerocivic, which was what version 2.0 was based on. In my latest version 4.0 I'm striking off into bold new territory, where no modder has gone before.

I'll post a thread once I hit 15 posts. Right now the forum isn't letting me do links, and there's a *ton* of useful links regarding Champrius.

I drive on the highway 75%+ of the time. I set the cruise control to 65 mph, and go to sleep. Seriously, I don't use any hypermiling techniques. Any mpg gains are pure aero / mechanical.

In order to make this legal in PA (my home state), I technically had to classify the tail as a trailer. Anything under 2ft can be considered a bumper; anything over is a trailer. So she has a DOT approved trailer light kit. That includes:
red marker lights at the end
yellow marker lights on the side
I didn't need conspicuity tape because it wasn't a minimum of 12 linear feet on edge. Rear backup lights aren't required on trailers, but I've decided to put them on my next version Champrius 4.0 which I'm building now.

Onward!

__________________
Currently building Champrius 4.0! Follow starting here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeeL6xyFp-k/

and ask in depth questions here:
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post669277

The goal is 70 mpg this time around.

Stats from Champrius v3.2:
  Reply With Quote
The Following 10 Users Say Thank You to Talos Woten For This Useful Post:
aerohead (06-09-2022), Cd (06-07-2022), COcyclist (06-12-2022), Drifter (06-07-2022), freebeard (06-07-2022), Gasoline Fumes (06-07-2022), MetroMPG (06-07-2022), Piwoslaw (06-08-2022), RedDevil (06-07-2022), woodstock74 (01-27-2023)
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com