Economics and politics finally have a nuclear bond.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Yeah like how to power all these electric cars?
Every family that adds an electric car is going to be adding hundreds of additional KWH to their electric bill.

If the typical car is driven 12,000 miles, I assume an EV will require about 4,000 kWh more per year (3 miles / kWh).

Charging off-peak means baseload capacity would need to increase, which is a good thing since it reduces the gap between base and peak loads. Nuke would be an excellent source of baseload since they like to run at a continuous output.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

How much of the new infrastructure bill is going towards next-gen nuclear research? That's about the only thing that actually needs a subsidy to get off the ground.

Solar-electric hybrid vehicles. Of course, over-reaching government expansion is not fit for purpose.

What works is placing a bounty on the solution, like the X-Prizes.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

What works is placing a bounty on the solution, like the X-Prizes.

Probably helps if the problem is clearly defined first.

Instead we throw money at the symptoms of a problem that was never defined in the first place.

[freebeard]

The X-prize approach parameterizes the problem and pits competition against collective action.

An anonymous [Slashdot] reader writes:
science.slashdot.org/Fossil Fuel Combustion Kills More Than 1 Million People Every Year, Study Says (arstechnica.com)

Burning fossil fuels kills more than 1 million people ever year, according to a new study that examined the worldwide health effects of fine particulate pollution, also known as PM2.5. Coal, which produces sooty, particulate-laden pollution, is responsible for half of those deaths, while natural gas and oil are responsible for the other half. Some 80 percent of premature deaths due to fossil fuel combustion takes place in South Asia or East Asia, the report said.

If the microplastic particulates don't get them first....

edit:
Here's an example of direct action, a game developer buys three electric school buses and gives them away. He Watched Our Video, Now He's Giving Away $1 Million?! | In Depth

Daimler matches with a fourth.

Media: [crickets]

[redpoint5]

I dislike most studies that say x number of people die due to y. Those are only accurate/relevant when the cause of death is unambiguous with no comorbidities, like falling off a wind turbine and plummeting to the ground. These so-called studies have no way to directly attribute cause of death (because they can't control the variables), and it doesn't factor in how many years of life were lost.

It's way too easy to mislead with those sorts of "facts". Alec Baldwin has killed more people than Fukushima and Three Mile Island combined. Which were bigger problems?

As with the Wu-flu, it matters if it's cutting a week off someone's life, or 70 years.

More relevant would be how many days it impacts overall life expectancy. If it's like 1, then we can hardly care, but if it's 300, we should take notice.

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by myself

The X-prize approach parameterizes the problem and pits competition against collective action.
[snip]
Here's an example of direct action, a game developer buys three electric school buses and gives them away.

Two examples of anarchism in action and one mocking the media.

If the microplastic particulates don't get them first....

....or maybe mocking South and East Asia?

[oil pan 4]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

If the typical car is driven 12,000 miles, I assume an EV will require about 4,000 kWh more per year (3 kWh / mile).

Charging off-peak means baseload capacity would need to increase, which is a good thing since it reduces the gap between base and peak loads. Nuke would be an excellent source of baseload since they like to run at a continuous output.

An electric car can get 5 or 6 miles per kwh if you drive it like a gof cart. That appears to be the exception and not the rule. I get 4.4 in the summer and 3.5 in the winter.
Electric truck and SUVs expect them to use up to 2x as much power as a small car like the leaf.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

An electric car can get 5 or 6 miles per kwh if you drive it like a gof cart. That appears to be the exception and not the rule. I get 4.4 in the summer and 3.5 in the winter.
Electric truck and SUVs expect them to use up to 2x as much power as a small car like the leaf.

Fixed my lysdexia.

I expect the larger trucks and SUVs to be around 2 miles per kWh, and I expect that to represent about 1/3rd the cost per mile compared to the gasoline counterpart.

There shouldn't be major electricity production issues, as market problems can be solved with market solutions (TOU as one example). As I keep saying, EVs should help stabilize the grid more than destabilize.

[freebeard]

Fixed my lysdexia.

Where? I don't see an edit.

Quoth DDG:

https://fuvowners.com › showthread.php?tid=827&page=3
2019 FUV has 18.1kWh battery with a weight of 1300 lbs. 19.4 kWh / 100 miles, 102.5 miles 2015 Spark EV has 19kWh battery with a weight of 2866 lbs. 26.3 kWh / 100 miles, 88 miles 2015 LEAF has 24kWh battery with a weight of 3256 lbs. 26.8 kWh / 100 miles, 92 miles 2015 i3 has 22kWh with a weight of 2860 lbs. 24.6 kWh / 100 miles, 89 miles

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Where? I don't see an edit.

Quoth DDG:

Oilpan's quote of me shows I got my kWh ahead of my miles.

If something's getting 3 kWh / mile, it had better look like this;