Economics and politics finally have a nuclear bond.

[Grant-53]

The capacity and reliability of the electric grid is in question. Adding capacity will take time and money. Small scale nuclear and hydroelectric will be part of the solution. Putting solar cells over parking lots could help merchants and perhaps reduce the need for plowing snow. We are vulnerable to nuclear EMP strikes. Costs per mile over the economic life of the vehicle will be watched closely.
Compare 800,000 deaths to disease to 10 Hiroshima blasts. See Cause /Effect studies.

[freebeard]

Putting solar cells over parking lots could help merchants and perhaps reduce the need for plowing snow.

I dunno. The snow will still need to be plowed, it will just be harder to get to.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I dunno. The snow will still need to be plowed, it will just be harder to get to.

Solar belongs on roofs and in dead zones, period

Need to make that aspect much easier if we truly want a more decentralized grid.

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Yeah like how to power all these electric cars?
Every family that adds an electric car is going to be adding hundreds of additional KWH to their electric bill.

Literally every new McMansion on the Texas grid is electric only and uses 10x-100x more power than a BEV and literally no one cares.

Having a setup like this guarantees a grid failure every time temps dip below 15F

[freebeard]

Need to make that aspect much easier if we truly want a more decentralized grid.

Hexagonal layout and spinning Luigi Colani three-blade wipers.

[oil pan 4]

Doesnt matter who buys them That's hundreds of extra kwh each month for every car. Unless it's broke or been parked.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

Doesnt matter who buys them That's hundreds of extra kwh each month for every car. Unless it's broke or been parked.

And there are more electrified McMansions built every month than EVs sold that use 1000’s of extra kwhrs every month, as said no one cares about that.

Last year the guy down the block “renovated” an older small home but didn’t want to $$$$ on converting the heat systems and adding forced air, his February electric bill was $700, mine was $72 of which $50 is fees and taxes
Also I own an PHEV he does not.

Seems to me we are worrying about the wrong problem

[redpoint5]

As I keep saying, we should be more worried about malicious action than unintentional. That's not to say that unintentional is inconsequential, but intentional harm is more effective than unintentional.

[freebeard]

Doing the right thing for the wrong reason is no way to go through life.

...his February electric bill was $700, mine was $72...

If I lived in a silica aerogel bubble I could point at both of you and laugh, but I don't. My bill runs $30-70 through the year.

I've thought about diversifying away from all-electric with a camp-stove/lantern that runs on wood pellets under a hood and 4" stovepipe. My brother's pellet stove requires a fan, but this is more like a rocket stove.

Off topic for a nuclear thread, I know.

[aerohead]

Frankenstein says: 'deficit good', not spending 'bad.'
* Buy $ 1.1-trillion today in 2021 for $ 1-trillion, then in 10-years receive $ 1.1-trillion from the U.S Treasury, with the buying power of $ 1-trillion in 2021-dollars. Presto chango alakazam!

[Hersbird]

Originally Posted by rmay635703

And there are more electrified McMansions built every month than EVs sold that use 1000’s of extra kwhrs every month, as said no one cares about that.

Last year the guy down the block “renovated” an older small home but didn’t want to $$$$ on converting the heat systems and adding forced air, his February electric bill was $700, mine was $72 of which $50 is fees and taxes
Also I own an PHEV he does not.

Seems to me we are worrying about the wrong problem

That is based on EVs on the streets now but what if 100% of all cars and trucks were EVs? total new housing starts for the entire USA are like 1.4 million. Many of those are to replace destroyed or end of life housing that is removed. I bet many of the new construction, even if larger, are quite a bit more efficient than the stuff they replace. Now every year they sell like 15 million new cars or 10 times the new homes and if all of them were EVs replacing gasoline cars that is certainly a bigger problem for the grid than homes. Plus many of the homes are in whole new developments with whole new grid added, where the cars go into older neighborhoods with old existing grids. Now also add millions of new fast chargers running even higher amperage. It's a bigger problem than you pass off.