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Old 09-05-2013, 06:44 PM   #71 (permalink)
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It's a very exciting project. Groundbreaking...really! It will change the world, not just the automotive world.





But when can I buy one?

This is not the first groundbreaking prototype to come out.


How many of the previous amazing prototypes have made it to market so far? You still have a lot of hurdles to jump before we can allow ourselves to get frothy with enthusiasm.



You will forgive me/us for not being overly enthusiastic until something starts rolling of the assembly line that we can buy.


Interested, absolutely.

The Aptera cured many of us from that early enthusiasm. Can I buy a VW XL-1 yet? How about a gm hydrogen car? Unlike the silly hydrogen car, yours has a real chance.

Hey, I liked you on facebook. I'm reading the blog.


What more do you want?

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Edison2 seems to have their S**T together when compared to cars like the aptera or elio. When I see their car and what they're trying to do, I don't see any glaring issues. I wish them success and I hope to work for them someday
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They could run it on Bonneville S**t Flats!

XprizeRoadTrip -- Thanks for posting the video linky. In the parlance of Internet "Tuft testing ...like a boss".

I can see that it needs those Bridgestone 19" tires. In the interior shots you can see how stiff it's sprung. It looks stiffer than my Beetle.

The take-away message for me is downwind intakes or upwind exhausts at the widest part of the body for greatest effect. Is that fin in the back articulated? If it was crosswind sensitive, that would be awesome.
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It's a very exciting project. Groundbreaking...really! It will change the world, not just the automotive world...
But when can I buy one?
This is not the first groundbreaking prototype to come out.
How many of the previous amazing prototypes have made it to market so far? You still have a lot of hurdles to jump before we can allow ourselves to get frothy with enthusiasm.
You will forgive me/us for not being overly enthusiastic until something starts rolling of the assembly line that we can buy.
Interested, absolutely.

Hey, I liked you on facebook. I'm reading the blog.
What more do you want?
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Troy, you really loaded that post up I get the cynicism, the mild attacks and pessimism; Aptera really did a number on fans. I don't know if you're blowing off steam or asking actual questions, but is this my personal opinion: I think Aptera did a lot to kill off optimism, hope and enthusiasm. Your post backs that up. But you're still keeping tabs on Edison2, and Edison2 continues to move forward, survive and further innovate. Those are both very good things.

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...Aptera really did a number on fans. alive.
"...Once burned, twice shy..." breeds both caution & skepticism among both fans and foes.
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"...Once burned, twice shy..." breeds both caution & skepticism among both fans and foes.
It's interesting stuff ... I wish them nothing but the best ... but ... it is a long up hill battle , with many obstacles ... We'll see what happens.

What killed Aptera for me ... was long before the 'end' of the company ... For me it was the about ~64% or so of bloated increase in wh of energy per mile @ 50 MPH it got from prototype to the last 'production' version ... After that much bloat it was only about ~12% less wh/mile @50MPH than a OEM Gen-1 Insight ... ~12% is just not that big of a improvement for ~$30,000... we'll see how much wh/mile bloat happens to the VLC as it moves from prototype to production.

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