Electric Vehicle Information - Start Here

[Flakbadger]

Originally Posted by Lokhankin

New 2021 USA administration should speed up the removing of ICE, promoting the autonomous EVs, thus killing the private car ownership. All in great Global "reset".

I have absolutely no idea what this means. Discontinuing internal combustion is a requirement for the world's continued existence. Autonomous EV's are a great idea but I don't see that being feasible for a little while yet.

Killing private car ownership--that's really not possible in places like America, where we pretty much refined urban sprawl into an art form. I'd take mass transit (coronavirus notwithstanding) in a heartbeat if it was

A) Not filled with crackheads
B) Available in my area
C) Comparable in travel time to driving

But any mass transit in my area is crackhead-filled and slow compared to just getting in my car and driving.

As for global "reset," I feel like I'm missing something here.

[freebeard]

Discontinuing internal combustion is a requirement for the world's continued existence.

That's a rather harsh way of saying we can't go on like this. External combustion Okay then?

As for global "reset," I feel like I'm missing something here.

Capital G, capital R. It's the sixteen years plan that was interrupted for the last four years.

Else maybe the Earth flips on it's axis. ....again!

[Flakbadger]

Originally Posted by freebeard

That's a rather harsh way of saying we can't go on like this. External combustion Okay then?

Capital G, capital R. It's the sixteen years plan that was interrupted for the last four years.

Else maybe the Earth flips on it's axis. ....again!

Ah gotcha. IDK man, to be perfectly honest my personal outlook on humanity is rather bleak, and I don't see us making things "better," ever. Too much human history to back up my point of view. At least in my opinion!

[redpoint5]

Things are always getting better and will continue to do so until it doesn't, likely catastrophically. Every measurable metric of human well-being has improved over the last 200 years, mostly thanks to exploiting fossil fuels.

[RustyLugNut]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Things are always getting better and will continue to do so until it doesn't, likely catastrophically. Every measurable metric of human well-being has improved over the last 200 years, mostly thanks to exploiting fossil fuels.

The trick is to transition to our new forms of energy without upsetting that upward march.

People are simply too comfortable in their ideologies to work on those transitions. . . now.

[freebeard]

IDK man, to be perfectly honest my personal outlook on humanity is rather bleak, and I don't see us making things "better," ever. Too much human history to back up my point of view.

I understand, it's a glass half-(empty)(full) situation. I think humanity itself is Okay and constantly improving but *something* is riding us like a pony.

The 1960s Sexual Revolution turned into Kindergarten Story Time.

Internet turned into a Panopticon.

Buy the Ticket, Take the Ride

Hunter S. Thompson

[Flakbadger]

Originally Posted by freebeard

I understand, it's a glass half-(empty)(full) situation. I think humanity itself is Okay and constantly improving but *something* is riding us like a pony.

The 1960s Sexual Revolution turned into Kindergarten Story Time.

Internet turned into a Panopticon.

I feel like humans in general are alright, but that "humanity" as a whole has turned to, and relied upon, completely sociopathic constructs to run and build things. That the heartless nature of the organization that humanity relies on and actively builds into is unsustainable and incompatible with long-term existence. The world is built on expansion and on easy access to unlimited resources, only we're past how far we can sustainably expand, and resources aren't unlimited.

[freebeard]

That's pretty accurate.

The hippys were right, we need to get ourselves back to the Garden. Part of the problem is Fallacy of the Excluded Middle, or en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma.

"Business as usual" or no? What about we all live in tepees?* What about a little of that?**

*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eA-B7327eVk

** Dennis Hopper in Easy Rider

[aerostealth]

Got tired of stopping to figure this out from the data my vehicle was giving me so I made a table. Also it shows just what a loser 120 volt charging is which is something few people seem to understand.

Efficiency Table for Electric Vehicle 3.3 to 5.2 Miles per kWh

By John Gilkison
June 26, 2021
Miles / kWh Watt Hours / Mile MPG at 90% MPG at 80%
3.3 303 100 90
3.4 294 103 92
3.5 286 106 94
3.6 277 109 97
3.7 270 112 100
3.8 263 115 102
3.9 256 118 105
4.0 250 121 108
4.1 244 138 123
4.2 238 127 113
4.3 232 131* 116
4.4 227 133* 119
4.5 222 137* 121
4.6 217 140* 124
4.7 213 142* 127
4.8 208 146* 129*
4.9 204 149* 132*
5.0 200 152* 135*
5.1 196 155* 138*
5.2 192 158* 140*

[California98Civic]

Originally Posted by aerostealth

Efficiency Table for Electric Vehicle 3.3 to 5.2 Miles per kWh

By John Gilkison
June 26, 2021
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Interesting. But ? I don't understand why you posted it.