05-03-2017, 04:05 AM
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Shrewd maybe. But his name is ruined. Cause Paul, 'Elio.
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05-03-2017, 04:38 AM
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I'd wager Mr Elio himself is FAR from screwed.
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Perhaps I should have been clearer as to who was doing the screwing...  |
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05-03-2017, 08:26 AM
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Shrewd maybe. But his name is ruined. Cause Paul, 'Elio.
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It took Bricklin three failures to loose his legacy, then again he had real product then failed |
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05-03-2017, 09:12 AM
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Ruined. Only if you consider not being able to pull off a major financial scam again to be ruined.
He's been laughing all the way to the bank, and he's made several trips.
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05-03-2017, 09:29 AM
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Tesla was helmed by billionaire wunderkind Elon Musk, who was also one of the driving forces behind PayPal. He personally funded Tesla after its first round of funding problems, and continues to funnel his own money into it... to the point of him not actually having any money left in his name... all of it being tied up in stocks and assets.
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Thanks. I wasn't aware of all that. I love learning new stuff.
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05-03-2017, 11:48 AM
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I'll just point back to http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post496842.
Mark Frohnmayer chose not to name the company after himself. And, like Musk and Paypal, he made his grubstake from selling his interest in Garage Games. |
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05-03-2017, 01:32 PM
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Trying to reinvent the small motor is futile when you don't have the budget of a big manufacturer... or a unique selling proposition like Mazda does (SkyActiv, and now HCCI SkyActiv... though the release date for that has been pushed back a bit).
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Tuning an old Suzuki G10 engine is somewhat far from "trying to reinvent" at all. When it comes to "unique" selling proposition, Elio could have tried to partner with other startups like Pinnacle Engines or LiquidPiston. |
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05-03-2017, 01:47 PM
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I bet even If they just made the frame, suspension, and a simple body as a kit car it would cost more than what they were pitching for a turn key car with warranty.
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05-03-2017, 07:10 PM
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I'm still sad that Edison2 went down and took the inwheel suspension with it, Inrekor showed a flat-pack VW floorpan replacement and then went dark, Tucker never shipped his sports car... 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Tucker#Speculation_and_controversy_surroun ding_the_Tucker_Corporation
Or the concept that Alex Tremulus did for him:
I'd like to see Randy Grubb's interpretation of that.  |
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05-05-2017, 12:03 PM
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Before we elevate Elon Musk to sainthood, let's not forget to mention the $5B in federal funds his company has consumed. Don't get me wrong -- I think Tesla and Space-X are AWESOME efforts -- and apparently Uncle Sam does too.
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