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Old 11-20-2017, 06:02 PM   #1851 (permalink)
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Gondors Ev here we go again
I was thinking about getting a $500 Sondors fat tire electric bike. The price is pretty amazing. I can't get Wal-Mart's least expensive put together with the least expensive hub motor, controller, and Li-ion battery for under $500. The downside is converting my standard bike I already have would be less and also more stealth. The dumb forest service has outlawed any e-bikes from their roads and that's the vast majority around here. The state lands don't recognize anything under 500 watts with pedals that operates under 30mph as motorized so I can go on state lands and trails. The problem is they so intertwine and look like a checkerboard.one minute you are on state, then maybe some timber company land (which may be ok) then forest service which is against the law. BLM also considers it a motorcycle but are more likely to allow motorcycle trails.

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Old 11-20-2017, 06:53 PM   #1852 (permalink)
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Sondors Ev here we go again
Lofty goals, slick website with few details, promised production in the future, three wheels, funded on the faith of the prospective customer...

Fool me once, shame on you!
Fool me twice, not stinking likely!

I wonder how much of the frame design is borrowed from Elio? I see too much family resemblance to be coincidence to my trained engineering eye.

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Old 11-21-2017, 08:10 AM   #1853 (permalink)
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It's what Elio should have done: produce something, then expand. Sondors already sells EVs. Now they're looking to make a larger one.
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I have mixed feelings. I do not have any idea what Elio has done before now, but Sondors has done stuff, so he already has a track record of making things happen. On the other hand, he is asking less than the Arcimoto is charging for a super-sized electric Elio.

That price does not seem realistic to me.

Anyway, I created a new thread when I first saw it: http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...0-a-35853.html
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Old 04-16-2018, 06:53 PM   #1856 (permalink)
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LOL!!! Elio must be looking for that one last rich clueless investor...
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Old 04-16-2018, 07:37 PM   #1857 (permalink)
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The last time we checked in with [...] Elio Motors, it had $4,000 cash left in the bank, and it was attempting to raise $100 million from investors on Wall Street.
I have more in the bank than they do! How much debt do they have?

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[I]f you have no idea what the blockchain is, [t]hink of it [magic, possibly black magic].
Wrong, it is mathematics.

But the change is a complete abandonment of the original business plan, to make a car. We'll see if there is any headroom left in ICOs, or if they are late to that party too.
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Where is the working production prototype? How does their new engine perform?
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Old 04-18-2018, 01:32 PM   #1860 (permalink)
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Boy am I glad I never "invested" in Elio. Many I think that did are no where near as happy as me. PT Barnum said something about those folks. Something to the effect of "There's a sucker born every minute"... and 2 to take him. This has been going on so long that I don't remember when it started. (sometime in 2011, 2012???)

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