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Old 06-02-2019, 09:42 PM   #1941 (permalink)
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What really pisses me off is that I'd love to have one.
The closest you could get now is an HMV Freeway

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Old 06-02-2019, 11:29 PM   #1942 (permalink)
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Maybe a prototype will show up on ebay some day.
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Old 06-03-2019, 12:13 AM   #1943 (permalink)
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That too was supposed to get 84 MPH--from 12 HP.

At least they sold 700.

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Old 06-03-2019, 10:46 AM   #1944 (permalink)
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To get around or over 100mpg what would people rather have?
An eilo with unlimited range, but it's tiny.
Or something like a nissan leaf at least it's a normal car with limited range.
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Old 06-03-2019, 11:00 AM   #1945 (permalink)
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To get around or over 100mpg what would people rather have?
An eilo with unlimited range, but it's tiny.
Or something like a nissan leaf at least it's a normal car with limited range.
A Leaf costs similarly per mile to a 55mpg car here, due to the ratio of cost between gas and electricity. Ultimately cost per mile should be what we measure, right?

Admittedly the EV will be more clean at any cost here, since electricity is from 100% renewables.
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To get around or over 100mpg what would people rather have?
An eilo with unlimited range, but it's tiny.
Or something like a nissan leaf at least it's a normal car with limited range.
https://www.arcimoto.com/
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Old 06-03-2019, 12:06 PM   #1947 (permalink)
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That looks like a better designed eilo and is electric which I think eilo not offering an electric helped seal their fate.
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To get around or over 100mpg what would people rather have?
An eilo with unlimited range, but it's tiny.
Or something like a nissan leaf at least it's a normal car with limited range.
Our e-Golf is getting 6.1 miles/kWh aka 205MPGe and it has a range of about 190 miles this time of year.
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...I think eilo not offering an electric helped seal their fate.
That was their (first?) mistake, which they compounded by designing a proprietary engine.

I didn't mind the door, but ingress/egress looked to be worse than my Superbeetle, and I have to pry myself into and out of it.
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Not offering a vehicle is what sealed their fate. Arcimoto looks great, but I want an enclosed cabin. We get picky about that in New Hampshire.

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