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Old 05-16-2020, 01:05 AM   #1981 (permalink)
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I was thinking I could save cash with a 3 wheel enclosed motorcycle but nope the state apparently reclassified these as auto cycles so you can pay 4x more registration and insurance

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Old 05-17-2020, 11:39 PM   #1982 (permalink)
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We "wasted" time here discussing its viability as a vehicle, the way the company was "run" and other related bits. "Investors" gambled, customers got suckered, and the world kept moving.
Actually the proposed vehicle could be viable, even though the way the company was "run" is clearly a scam.
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Old 05-17-2020, 11:44 PM   #1983 (permalink)
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Viable where? It wouldn't be viable in the US.
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Old 05-18-2020, 06:49 AM   #1984 (permalink)
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I'm on the side of it being viable- it's just not going to have a big enough market to make it a "big" company. But none of the time we spent arguing all that was wasted.
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Old 05-18-2020, 11:34 AM   #1985 (permalink)
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I'm on the side of it being viable- it's just not going to have a big enough market to make it a "big" company. But none of the time we spent arguing all that was wasted.
Volume is required to come anywhere near the promised $20,000 and very deep pockets are required to fund the 4-5 years of design, development, and tooling up a manufacturing plant before the first vehicle is sold.

To date no one has cracked the code of making a trike with all the creature comforts of a car priced less than $20,000 and stayed in business.


The ELECTRA MECCANICA’S SOLO is actually on sale for $20K - time will tell if they fade away like the rest of the 3 wheel autocycles.

The Vanderhall is $25,000 for the gas version / $35,000 for the electric without any creature comforts. They have been selling autocycles for 5 years.

The Campagna T-Rex made trikes for 3 decades but closed up shop last year. It was a niche product and priced like one. $60,000 with no creature comforts.
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Old 05-18-2020, 01:22 PM   #1986 (permalink)
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To date no one has cracked the code of making a trike with all the creature comforts of a car priced less than $20,000 and stayed in business.
Arcimoto furthers you point. Their Evergreen model doesn't meet the qualifier but does meet the price point.

The volume production you mention could halve their price.
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Fingers crossed that they're not the next example of failure-to-launch.
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Well, Arcimoto started selling. Hopefully they keep up the good work.
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maybe Elio could spark some interest if they showed cobbled-together mockup of delivery or rapid responder variants.

Further comment should go to the Arcimoto thread.

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