10-02-2020, 08:04 PM
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I dunno, there's all sorts of hair splitting over in Aerodynamics
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I was pleased to see detante breaking out recently.
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10-02-2020, 09:16 PM
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It runs hot and cold.
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10-02-2020, 11:43 PM
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It runs hot and cold.
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Cold War never much better than the hot war for the non-aligned countries.
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10-03-2020, 06:37 PM
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Is it misleading to say you are an engineer if you've never had an engineering job, but have a degree?
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10-04-2020, 03:32 PM
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I was just getting lost in the youtubes and stumbled on this video. Didn't think it was good enough for its own thread and it has relevance here. Haven't watched any of the other videos in this series yet.
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10-06-2020, 07:22 PM
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... youtubes and stumbled on this video ...
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A lesson of the video might be that the Tesla truck might have a lot more rigidity than an F150, assuming its odd look is because it is a true "space frame" rather than a ladder frame.
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10-06-2020, 07:52 PM
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My reading of the structure is four moncoque boxes at the corners with a Vierendeel truss on each side.
'A lot' could be an order of magnitude.
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10-07-2020, 12:21 PM
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Frame difference also, the F150 still has some frame rails
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10-08-2020, 01:50 AM
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IIRC the triangulation gives the most accurate clue about the rigidity of some structures, including vehicle frames. No wonder the Cybertruck has such odd bodystyle.
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02-17-2021, 03:34 PM
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Here is a mechanical engineer who explains his chassis mods simply, executes them himself, and then measures their effects.
Here he is seam welding and measuring the effect A/B:
Here he is describing other chassis mods:
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I've seen a lot of structural modifications done to old Porsche 911's, but never some of the things he is doing. I say BRAVO, good work.
The one issue I didn't see him address is the weak spot in most cars, where the large holes in the side of the car are - called doors. Even more flex is Targa and Convertibles with no top to arch over the doors and complete a box shape.
Normally in so-called full roll cage these issues are addressed.
Falling just short of a full roll cage are rocker panel reinforcements that are often triangular in shape from foot-well zone going upward to middle part of B-pillar.
When a car "folds in half" it is the area around the doors that "give it up" and allow the occupants to be crushed. Stiffing this area stiffens the chassis considerable but comes at the cost of ease of entry and exit.
I can only guess that the author of the videos knows this and is doing modifications that allow a stock look.
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