Environmentalists are the worst people on earth.

[oil pan 4]

Change my mind.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mI6IzP...ature=youtu.be

The road to you know where is paved with good intentions? Yeah especially when that road is built upon a foundation of malice.
These guys were self proclaimed "environmentalists". When infact they were just a bunch of selfish, entitled, unwashed, dope smoking, anti populationist hippies who were worried about California's population doubling in the next 20 years or so and they didnt want to share. Thats it.
They figured the best way to stop that California's population growth was to block water infrastructure creation and block electrical power generation build out, especially if it's hydro and nuclear.
The damage they did 60 years ago still persists to this day. Well they failed and most of them are dead, so HA!
Then once they gained success and notoriety ultimately they became corrupt, morally and financially.
In the ultimate betrayal, the anti nukes took money from the coal power lobby to get the anti nukes to push coal as the safe alternative. It's a dam modern Greek tragedy. Blocking dams to prevent people from having water and electricity, blocking nuclear to keep people from having unlimited clean safe energy, taking money from the coal Barrons to build dirty 1960s straight out the smoke stack coal power plant and these were Sierra club guys (who made friends of the earth when sierra club wasn't extreme enough). Wow.
Environmentalists are some of the worst people on earth. I say these United States would be better off if they never existed.
We would have more hydroelectric, more water, more nuclear, less coal.

[redpoint5]

Plenty of worse people.

I draw a distinction between the green religion and environmentalists. I'm an environmentalist. I want the best environment for people we can get, followed by the best environment for other creatures I like.

I do want the worst environment possible for mosquitos and hornets though.

[freebeard]

When infact they were just a bunch of selfish, entitled, unwashed, dope smoking, anti populationist hippies who were worried about California's population

Yeah, Hazel Mitchell and David Pessonen sure look like hippies. They're even standing in front of a VW Beetle!

Consider that they may have been right at that time. The connection to nuclear weapons was there. If the war hawks hadn't pushed light water reactors over Thorium we wouldn't be living under a threat of total destruction even today.

[oil pan 4]

You just described conservationism.

To an environmentalists the mosquitos and hornets are good, you are the problem.

[redpoint5]

I'm taking back environmentalist, just as I'm taking back progressive.

Those that believe in the "pristine earth" religion aren't environmentalists, just as those who would shrink the economic pie aren't progressive.

[freebeard]

Well, duh. Hippies are conservative. Environmentalism came from the Yippies.

https://www.publicpeople.org › who-were-the-yippies.htm
Who Were the Yippies? (with pictures) - Public People
20 May 2022The Yippies were more likely to use guerrilla theater or public pranks to bring attention to their causes. Although the Yippies were more radicalized than the hippies, most members and associates drew the line at organized protests and sit-ins. Inspired by the humor-filled rants of Abbie Hoffman, Yippies created absurdist political manifestos ...

To an environmentalists the mosquitos and hornets are good, you are the problem.

"The Law is like a spider's web, the Wasp goes free, the fly does not"

Scott Adams

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

I'm sure there is a clear difference between real environmentalists and the self-proclaimed ones, who are in fact enviro-terrorists using the fear of a climate disaster as an excuse for population control measures. Sometimes the average Joe who tries to decrease expenses on fuel and electricity doesn't notice, but may be doing more for the environment than any self-proclaimed environmentalist who pushes for unrealistic measures.

[freebeard]

Sometimes the average Joe who tries to decrease expenses on fuel and electricity doesn't notice, but may be doing more for the environment than any self-proclaimed environmentalist who pushes for unrealistic measures.

R. Buckminster Fuller considered himself an 'average Joe'. He was the Ur-environmentalist. (And he liked hippies)

https://quota.media › pioneering-environmentalist-buckminster-fuller-and-an-early-eco-label
Environment pioneer Buckminster Fuller and an early eco label
17 May 2021His initial plan, for a business called Earth Accounting, was influenced by the renowned American futurist and pioneering environmental activist Buckminster Fuller Alberto Saavedra explains, "The idea of Earth Accounting was that a consumer would scan a barcode and instantly get sustainability information about a product they were thinking of ...

ecologyprime.com › 2021 › 02 › 18 › marcus-aurelius-buckminster-fuller-the-philosophy-of-sustainability
Marcus Aurelius, Buckminster Fuller & the philosophy of ... - Ecology Prime
18 Feb 2021The principles which drove Buckminster Fuller, which were aligned with the philosophies put forth by Marcus Aurelius, define the spirit of sustainable enterprise. The principles these men put forward should be the basis of the modus operandi by which CEO's run their businesses to maximize sustainability. If a man is a part of nature ...

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b0/5f...9c6e21dda0.jpg

[Piotrsko]

Originally Posted by freebeard

Well, duh. Hippies are conservative. Environmentalism came from the Yippies.]

I thought yippies descended from MUGWUMPS but could be wrong since I was off playing army at the time

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by freebeard

R. Buckminster Fuller considered himself an 'average Joe'.

His projects didn't really look like something an average Joe would appreciate at all. He was more like an average George... Jetson