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Old 10-14-2008, 11:13 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Fatty Pneumonia the metro pig.

My Metro is a fatty fat fatty.

This was done with an Intercomp 777 race scale with a 1995 Metro 4 door sedan.

* The car was empty.
* The car had a partial (about half) tank of fuel.

The Interweb seems to indicate 1940 as a curb weight. This seems slightly below that when accounting for 3-4 gallons of fuel @ 7+ #'s each (21-28#s)

I didn't really know where this fell but the forum admin thought someone might see value in it.

I was pretty impressed, my race spec Miata is at 2100lbs with no interior. Apparently my metro is a fatty though.



Some of you race, some of you don't. That 50.77% cross weight is damn impressive for any stock car, ESPECIALLY a front wheel drive, ESPECIALLY an American car.

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Old 10-15-2008, 03:00 AM   #2 (permalink)
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mmm yeah. that is fat. Best be careful, don't want your car gaining its own gravitational field.
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I recommend losing weight manually, with a Sawzall.

Or, being in Wisconsin, I'm sure you can accomplish weight reduction through attrition/biodegradation.
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Time to relocate the battery, and remove any unnecessary weight there Fatty! Just kidding, a weight reduction will improve acceleration pretty substantially.
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I recommend losing weight manually, with a Sawzall.

Or, being in Wisconsin, I'm sure you can accomplish weight reduction through attrition/biodegradation.
It loses weight every time i jack it up.
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Time to relocate the battery, and remove any unnecessary weight there Fatty! Just kidding, a weight reduction will improve acceleration pretty substantially.
at 50.77% cross weight I don't know that moving the battery will fix it.

It wont reduce total weight, it will add to it, with about 10-15#s in wiring.

I would like to throw a solar panel on the trunk and do away with the alternator so I may do that anyway, but let's think crtically about cliche suggestions
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i just did a quick calc, front weight is at 59%. Assuming a 45# battery we could lower that to 56.8%, and add a bit back to that in weight from wire distributed the length of the car. Great for performance, donno what it would do to mileage though.
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i thought 60% 40% was what u wanted in a fwd car and 50%-50% in a rwd onethat is kinda light haha
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I guess if traction was a concern and you were building cars for ham and eggers that need weight over the engine drive wheels. but performance will always suffer when the weight is not balanced on each spring.
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i was always told that during weight trasfer u wanted morw weight over the drive wheels, i.e hitting the apex of a turn rolling iin to the throttle weight shift to outside rear, with a 50-50 on a fwd that would cause hardly no weight on the front inner tire , with most open diff setups the inside tire would spin case as little as 10% of the cars weight can be on that tire.(non sport stock suspension) now in a rwd set up that would be optimal for traction

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