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Old 07-07-2011, 10:53 PM   #11 (permalink)
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This isn't a one fill high mpg number (like some on the top ten list),

Hey hey hey now. mine is over a 90 day too, with A/C and P/S still belted. but I got the 5 speed. but I still say great job. with the slushbox.

and I am with you some on the TOP 10 EPA list only have 1 or 2 entries on the fuel log. and think they should not count.

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Old 07-07-2011, 10:54 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Congrats, Tygen1!! I have the same next goal and it just happens to be the same number
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Old 07-07-2011, 11:52 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Little Blue - '98 Ford Escort ZX2 Cool
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Tygen1 -

I *really* respect your accomplishment because I also judge myself on the 90 day scale.

Is there one thing that put you "over the top", so to speak?

CarloSW2
Looking back, I would not say "One" thing put it over the top...except what was mentioned earlier that pushed me over the 50mpg threshold. I've worked hard at taking out as many stop signs and lights from my commute and spending a greater percentage of it on the highway and I have modded the car to get the best possible highway mpg's, because I'm at a large disadvantage in city driving with an ATX. The ATX ZX2 is geared higher than the MTX, so it can do better on the highway, and I keep my speed down to the 50-55mph range. Aeromods are key on the highway and I have modified my car to run a lean 17:1 AFR on the highway, that's the only way to get this sort of mpg out of this car. The LRR tires, deletes, and Zero Toe have greatly helped in runing leaner than I could before. I used to run down the road at a 52-53 LOD getting instant mpg readings around the mid 60's. Now I run down the road at a 46-48 LOD seeing mid 70's on the instant reading. RE-92's are an amazing tire and I would highly recomend them to any serious Ecomodder.
So to sum it up: Route Planning, Low Speed, Aeromods, Lean, and LRR are the heavy hitters on my mod list, but the sum of all the little things help as well.
Keep in mind that it has taken two and half years to make this happen
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:09 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Hey hey hey now. mine is over a 90 day too, with A/C and P/S still belted. but I got the 5 speed. but I still say great job. with the slushbox.

and I am with you some on the TOP 10 EPA list only have 1 or 2 entries on the fuel log. and think they should not count.
I'm glad to learn that I am not the only one obsessing over the Top Ten lists
I gotta knock you off the list in order to make it....unless they do a Top Ten instead of the Top Nine right now I don't think I can make more than 105%, it's taken some really unusually good traffic to get it this good. I don't expect the traffic to stay this good all summer. However the last three tanks are 112%....so you never know

Oh yea, I almost forgot to explain that the P/S was leaking and I was just tired of the mess and trying to fix it. The A/C hadn't worked for years and I don't really need it anymore and with the car having 292K on it, not having A/C doesn't really effect the value, cause the value is almost nothing Who would want to buy a car with wheel skirts anyhow?
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Old 07-08-2011, 12:43 AM   #15 (permalink)
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obsessing is not the word for it. I still have not done any aero mods just been to hot after work. I still have to do the grill block, wheel covers/ skirts, and mirror delete (once i find a good replacement for inside ones.)

Still on the fence on the PS delete. looks easy but i do drive down town some times. A/C delete I dont think I will ever do. When i have a crappy day at work and its 110 heat and 40% humidity out. I dont feel like sitting in a hot car.

I am going to try to run something like this and see if it helps. (dont hurt to try)

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Old 07-08-2011, 12:56 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Wow. I'm impressed with your car too. Shocked that it's a automatic trans. What a list of mods you have.
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Old 07-08-2011, 08:35 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Very impressive accomplishment for an AT! I agree, the top ten list needs some serious pruning/culling. I cracked the top 20, with 68 fills. Who knows how high I'd be if the mods removed the poseurs?

Maybe we should have a Peoples Choice thread, where we review and remove the poseurs, and come up with a list of peeps/cars that deserve the top ten ranking.
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Old 07-09-2011, 10:32 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Here ya go I fixed it. I just removed the ones that have less then 5 fuel logs. So look you are in the top 10 now. and the highest with an auto. So go out side and run around the block for your victory lap.

1) 2003 Cavalier: 146.76%
2) Vegan Powa!: 146.37%
3) PaleCivic: 139.742%
4) Slowest. Altima. Ever.: 118.619%
5) Shiba's Tercel : 112.8%
6) Black Knight : 106.154%
7) oldscoob : 104.609%
8) Little Blue : 100.92%
9) Chick magnet... : 95.8889%
10) Seriously? : 93.875%

even though I am tarded when it comes to math. so dont get me wrong. but when i do Average mpg / EPA MPG * 100 I get 206% (53.6/26*100=206%) i dont know i am so crappy with math i just use Excel the best i can. so what is the actual formula that is used?

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Old 07-09-2011, 11:12 PM   #19 (permalink)
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deathtrain -

The key is the word "above". You have to subtract the first 100 for the "% above EPA" :

Code:
 20   MPG / 26 MPG = 0.77 =>  77% of EPA MPG =>  23% below EPA MPG
 26   MPG / 26 MPG = 1.00 => 100% of EPA MPG =>   0% above EPA MPG
 53.6 MPG / 26 MPG = 2.06 => 206% of EPA MPG => 106% above EPA MPG
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Old 07-09-2011, 11:18 PM   #20 (permalink)
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deathtrain -

The key is the word "above". You have to subtract the first 100 for the "% above EPA" :

26 MPG / 26 MPG = 1.00 => 100% of EPA MPG => 0% above EPA MPG

53.6 MPG / 26 MPG = 2.06 => 206% of EPA MPG => 106% above EPA MPG

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thats what i am doing wrong.

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