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Old 09-20-2024, 04:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 09-20-2024, 07:58 PM   #22 (permalink)
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One EV in a US household that drives a 12,000 miles per year (which EVs average fewer miles than ICE) consumes about 4,000 kWh of electricity, or perhaps 1/3rd of the overall household consumption.
DOE agrees. They estimate a light duty EV will consume 3,800 kWh per year


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Japanese commuters would be traveling far fewer miles, and thus the need to quickly recharge is diminished.
Japanese don't commute by car. I used to work for a Japanese transmission supplier and visited the Osaka headquarters often. That factory with about 1,000 employees had 20 parking spaces. One of the benefits of excellent public transit.
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Old 09-21-2024, 02:23 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Define affordable.
A no-nonsense runabout, with a convenient size for heavy inner-city traffic, while still capable of addressing most of the needs of a typical household.


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To some people AWD Lamborghini or purple painted cybertrucks are affordable. To some, whatever the monthly repayment schedule buys, others it is a 15 year old junker from a friend.
To some categories such as trucks and SUVs, that $5000 fine for missing the CAFE standards is easier to assimilate into the retail price than for a compact car. And even in other countries where such regulation doesn't apply, many folks perceive SUVs to have a higher "added value" than a station-wagon or a sedan, even if they're based on the same underpinnings.


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I'm guessing your version of affordable is much different from mine.
Mexicans may agree with me when I talk about affordable cars

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Citroen is presently offering new, entry-level BEVs for $7,000 ( US ).
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Citroen is presently offering new, entry-level BEVs for $7,000 ( US ).
That's a 2-seater electric, too restricted when it comes to top speed, so it's not suitable to address the versatility requirement for a car which might often be the only one at a household from my perspective as a conservative Latino who grew up surrounded by smaller cars in a country where the car market matured more influenced by the Volkswagen Beetle than by the American landyachts of the postwar.

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