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Old 08-26-2019, 08:02 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 08-26-2019, 11:49 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I still believe an electric F-150 will cater mostly to the fleet market. Unless some "extended-range" version fitted with an onboard genset is made available initially for the military, and then maybe all the rednecks would daydream about getting a similar drivetrain in a similar way to how the Jeep and subsequently the Hummer made their way into the civilian market...
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I'm excited for the hybrid pickup. That's what the very first hybrid vehicle should have been... 20 years later.
I believe it was in the hybrid Tahoe thread that someone said hybridizing a truck or SUV would make more of a difference than replacing a sedan with a Prius, but how many Prii were, confusingly, bought as a status symbol?

I would rather well-to-do sheep bought a 50 MPG hunchback than a 6,000-pound ego hauler.

However, twenty years later we have the 25 MPG ego haulers, so what difference does it make?
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Old 08-27-2019, 05:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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We tend to consume in proportion to what we can afford. Europeans don't drive smaller vehicles because their DNA has been infused with extra righteousness. If we were to have grown up in Europe, we'd be driving the smaller cars for the same reasons they are, and if they had grown up in the US, they would be driving larger vehicles.

It will take either policy or prices to make large vehicles undesirable to consumers. In my view, if we want MPGs to go up, then fuel prices must increase via taxation.
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Old 08-27-2019, 09:00 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It will take either policy or prices to make large vehicles undesirable to consumers.
Protectionist policies have led Americans to be fooled into believing an oversized SUV would always be the pinnacle of safety.


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In my view, if we want MPGs to go up, then fuel prices must increase via taxation.
Had EPA not been so lenient when it comes to light-duty trucks and SUVs as it used to be, leading the Big Three to settle in a comfort zone instead of looking out to improve their drivetrain tech, I'm sure fuel price increases via taxation wouldn't be needed to force MPGs to go up.
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How do we make driving a bigger and less efficient vehicles than necessary uncool?

What if everyone could afford an XL1 tried to?
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I dunno, I already think driving something that doesn't accelerate or handle well pretty uncool. Too bad the line of cars piled up behind the slow truck that's on the brakes through curvy roads isn't enough shame to change their ways.
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I dunno, I already think driving something that doesn't accelerate or handle well pretty uncool. Too bad the line of cars piled up behind the slow truck that's on the brakes through curvy roads isn't enough shame to change their ways.
I'm with you there. Followed a yahoo last night down from Tahoe, sat on his brakes long enough to smoke them and he was empty. The truck in front of him had a load and I never saw brake lights come on. I just used lower gears with an occasional brake tap to keep from rear ending the yahoo. Must be 30 high speed turnouts on the way down you can use.
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The thing is, I'm so comfortable with corners and the handling characteristics of my vehicle that even in my truck with a full load and trailer, I'd probably still be on the tail of a slow Honda Civic driver that doesn't like to feel any lateral acceleration.

My baseline through a corner is 20 MPH over the suggested speed. Can't stand when people want to do 15 MPH UNDER the suggested speed.

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