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Old 07-23-2019, 12:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ford F-150 All Electric Pickup Truck

Ford is getting closer to an all electric F-150:

Ford teases all-electric F-150 pickup truck by pulling a million-pound train

Watch Ford F-150 all-electric pickup prototype tow over 1 million lbs of train carts [SIC]



https://cleantechnica.com/2019/07/23...-pickup-truck/

Oh, and they will sell a hybrid F-150 next year - 2020.

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Old 07-23-2019, 12:30 PM   #2 (permalink)
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As I said in the Bolt forum, I expect an F-series EV to sell far more than a Tesla truck for the simple fact that the F-series is already the top selling vehicle in the US, and people that want to use their trucks for work will choose them. Those that want to commute in a truck will probably seek out a Tesla. Rivian will be bought out by one of the bigger players. No chance of survival on their own.

I'm excited for the hybrid pickup. That's what the very first hybrid vehicle should have been... 20 years later.
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Old 07-24-2019, 10:35 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I wish automotive mfr wouldn't do the tow example. There was a guy on hackaday that did move a SD60 locomotive with a cd drive motor. Enough traction and gearing you can move anything, slowly perhaps, but noticeable movement.

Now if they give you all the parameters, maybe it will be meaningful.
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I wish automotive mfr wouldn't do the tow example. There was a guy on hackaday that did move a SD60 locomotive with a cd drive motor. Enough traction and gearing you can move anything, slowly perhaps, but noticeable movement.

Now if they give you all the parameters, maybe it will be meaningful.
Yep, give me a big enough lever and I'll move the world.
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That was more weight but on rails with steel wheels. Technically a 4400 hp locomotive can pull even up hills a 34 million pound train, meaning a 1/34th train only needs about 130 hp. Personally think this is the coolest gimmick of all time. Dirt road, on tires, and this thing probably has less than 250 hp to the wheels for about 1/2 a million pounds.

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Hey, that looks exactly like the Chevy pickup that's been collecting dust in our machine shed for the past 20 years.
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Yep, give me a big enough lever and I'll move the world.
I saw a big wheeled fulcrum at work the other day that was a good 7 feet long with a 6" claw. So if I weigh 200 pounds and bear down on the end I can lift 2800 pounds albeit only about 4" off the ground.

I always like to explain to the big diesel truck folks, 600 ft-lbs of torque is great, but I can easily put down 600 ft-lbs with a 3 foot bar. I can move that camper up the hill too. The difference is I can only make about 1/4 horsepower and your truck makes 400+, it would take me a year to get up the hill. Without the rate at which the force is applied it doesn't mean much, you need horsepower and torque.
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Actually you kinda need something to hold onto the end of the 3ft bar to get that torque otherwise you aren't at 3ft. You probably don't weigh exactly 200lbs either, but I won't mention that.

The other issue is idle engine torque: take something that needs 500 lbft torque to move, hook it up to one of them 600lbft trucks, dump the clutch in straight drive and it stalls. Hmm. Come to think of it, it will stall not hooked up to anything. My F250 Supposedly has 530 lbft at idle, so how come when I forget to downshift at a stop sign it dies? So really it takes about 5300lbft torque to idle start my truck in first gear.
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Since it's made by ford some what normal people may be able to afford it.
The tesla truck will be a grocery getter bought by rich a holes.
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Would they be A holes because they are "rich", or because all of humanity are A holes?

What kind of hole am I owning a Prius, big diesel truck with big tires, a sport bike, an Acura, and a Mazda?

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