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Old 08-20-2012, 08:11 AM   #11 (permalink)
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That looks OK.

Do you have any results regarding fuel economy yet ?

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Old 08-20-2012, 12:55 PM   #12 (permalink)
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no it still has to be fiberglassed and windows inserted
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Do the top front corners of the cap stick out further than the top rear corners of the cab? Looks like they may (that increases frontal area, which goes against your drag reduction efforts!)

Is it too late to re-work? If so, I'd suggest adding something rounded to the "front" of those cap corners to smooth the transition.
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Old 08-20-2012, 02:30 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yeah they do i need them too for a mounting surface im going to have like a big weather strip that goes from the canopy to the cab to seal the gap. so that should prevent air from slamming into the canopy. Im probably going to do a second canopy that shapes to the bed a lot better and put this one on my other older ranger. its my first go at it so its a trail and error learning experience
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Old 08-20-2012, 03:55 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I would modify some things here,
1st, that one picture shows the top front corner sticking above the back rear corner of your cab, that really will upset the air flow and almost render a large part of the cap worthless.
2nd, turn those corner supports that run front to back to 45°, this will ease the radius here and really help a lot, particularly in any kid of cross wind.
3rd, you need to raise the back end, your slope is much too aggressive. I understand that you think you want as small of a rear area, and therefore a smaller "Low pressure" zone behind your truck. But it does not work that way. You need to follow the "Aero Template" to achieve the best result.

Here's a pic of yer type of truck with the template.


4th, see if you cant put in some sort of support that bends the front to back top corners into a arching shape. Going straight from roof to top cap without a eased transition will really mess things up.

I know you've put a lot of work and thought into this already, and getting out to actually build something is awesome! Seriously good workmanship so far. But, you are making several errors that are going to really limit your results. Just a hunch, but your current design is only 30% of what is achievable. Will you see results? Yes. But if you make the 4 changes I suggest, I think you'll be in the 80% or better potential.

I have "photoshoped" some things onto your picture to illustrate what I mean here.



I really think if you're going to take the time to fiberglass this, you'd want it to be as good as possible. Also my suggestion #3 gives you a lot more usable space under the cap and improves the mpg result ta boot.

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I think i can manage to work onthose things before glassing it up. the first one isnt really going to happen i need to corner edges because there iare going to be led lights that are giong to be stuffed in between the canopy and the cab. but there is going to be a weather strip removign the gap.


I can turn 45 degrees shouldnt bee to big an issue.
Do they areally need to be so much in a curver for the aero might be a bit of pain to get the wood to arch like that.


number 4 how tall would you say that i would need to make the back end of the canopy? Its 3.5 inches on the low the center is 7 inches so like 12inches?
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You gotta understand that tripping up the air, particularly on the corners, is a dangerous thing to do since this is the area where vortices can and will form. And I mean huge, energy robbing, 18" diameter spinning tornadoes that require large amounts of energy to sustain. That 2" front top corner aero toe stub you have now could render the aero cap benefits useless. You might as well just make a traditional cap and take advantage of all the dry storage room. This is also why you want to ease the edges, sudden pressure changes start air spinning. I know, a vortex was the last thing you figured you'd need to be aware of avoiding, but they'll hose you over quick.



Yes, you need the curvey, it isn't the "Curvey" that makes it aero, it is the lack of an abrupt angle change that makes it good. You want the air to ease its way down from the center of your cab, and an abrupt change will not give you the same benefit. You could actually raise the whole back, without curves, to 10 inches and still get a good result and have more room.
To bend the board, get a piece of 1/4 inch plywood and make it in 3 layers, it will be bomb proof. Or you could cut slits in your solid lumber to get it to bend easier. It looks like you're using 1x4's for those corners, putting notches every 2 inches would do it I'd think at about 1/4 to 3/8 inches deep, and you won't lose much strength there.
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And I'd think 8 inches across most of the back is where you need to be. The back plate I illustrated is the shape you want to shoot for. You did a good job on your back plate! It's just not quite tall enough to be optimal.

If you need the front plate to be in the shape it is, then make it smaller so it tucks in behind the cab everywhere, this is a very critical area, things sticking up here, or too quick of a transition like you have now, will negatively affect the results in way greater proportion to their size. You'd be better off having it 2 inches lower across the whole top rather than 2 inches taller in the corners. If you put the wood in at the 45° angle, this should get it below the cab line.

Oh, and filling the gap between the cab and cap is not a big aero concern, you could leave a 2 inch space their all day and it would be insignificant, maybe a 2% difference in the improvement you get, so instead of going from 28 MPG to 32.2 MPG from you'd get 32.12 MPG.

Your current design might get you from 28 to 30 MPG where if you make the changes I'm talking about, you'll get to 31.5 or better MPG.

I'm not guessing here, what I tell you is based on a few years of contemplation over this.

Here is a paper upon which much of what I'm saying is based. Pay attention to pages 85, and 89-90. Real numbers, real results.

Drag Reduction of a Pickup using Add-On Devices

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Old 08-20-2012, 07:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I will see about making the changes tonight
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:40 PM   #19 (permalink)
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looks great. i would raise it up a little bit in the center where there arn't any supports.
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Old 08-20-2012, 08:44 PM   #20 (permalink)
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ha ha my fiberglass work is pretty awesome once im done with it i wouldnt even need the wood frame let alone additional supports. I have to look at making the modifictions to the frame then fiberglass the shell then cut and insert windows

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