Ford what are you thinking?

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

For the really heavy jobs I usually see many cabover trucks bigger than an American full-size pickup, but still fitted with a 4-pot turbodiesel below 5-litre. There's no real need for any turbodiesel bigger than a Cummins ISB4.5 (or a ISF3.8) in a pickup, not even for a pimped-up F650 (really).

[Xist]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

For the really heavy jobs I usually see many cabover trucks bigger than an American full-size pickup, but still fitted with a 4-pot turbodiesel below 5-litre. There's no real need for any turbodiesel bigger than a Cummins ISB4.5 (or a ISF3.8) in a pickup, not even for a pimped-up F650 (really).

I was out running and passed an Isuzu moving truck. I think the engine was 3.9 liters.

How many vehicles in the United States have larger engines, that are only used to haul egos?

[niky]

We should all be driving 5 hp rollerskates around if we're really serious about saving gas.

But in terms of ludicrosity, daily driving one of those things as a solo commuter is way up there.

[rmay635703]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

For the really heavy jobs I usually see many cabover trucks bigger than an American full-size pickup, but still fitted with a 4-pot turbodiesel below 5-litre. There's no real need for any turbodiesel bigger than a Cummins ISB4.5 (or a ISF3.8) in a pickup, not even for a pimped-up F650 (really).

I've pulled 10000 lbs behind a 120hp diesel, the "need" to drive 10000lbs 85mph uphill is a fantasy.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Xist

How many vehicles in the United States have larger engines, that are only used to haul egos?

Almost all, I could say. You might know the Corolla has a 1.3L engine for the base model in South Africa. Or let's take the Chevy Tahoe as an example: it once had a 4.8L V8 available for the 2WD versions, altough currently the 5.3L V8 is the base engine. Why would a soccer-mom really need anything bigger than the 4.3L V6? Well, the Argentinian versions of the GMT400 Tahoe got either the 250cu.in. straight-6 or a 4.2L straight-6 turbodiesels as the only engine options, not even a single V8 was available. And while an American might get shocked to know that a 230cu.in. 4-pot Diesel was considered good for a truck back here during the 80s, it's worth to note that the Perkins 4.203 was factory-fitted to the Ford F100/F150 in Argentina until early-90s, and it has less than half the displacement of that 6.9IDI used in USDM trucks...

[Xist]

Originally Posted by cRiPpLe_rOoStEr

Almost all, I could say. You might know the Corolla has a 1.3L engine for the base model in South Africa. Or let's take the Chevy Tahoe as an example: it once had a 4.8L V8 available for the 2WD versions, altough currently the 5.3L V8 is the base engine. Why would a soccer-mom really need anything bigger than the 4.3L V6? Well, the Argentinian versions of the GMT400 Tahoe got either the 250cu.in. straight-6 or a 4.2L straight-6 turbodiesels as the only engine options, not even a single V8 was available. And while an American might get shocked to know that a 230cu.in. 4-pot Diesel was considered good for a truck back here during the 80s, it's worth to note that the Perkins 4.203 was factory-fitted to the Ford F100/F150 in Argentina until early-90s, and it has less than half the displacement of that 6.9IDI used in USDM trucks...

The other day I was talking to my mom about my sister. My sister "needed" an SUV for "all of her kids"--two and a half, she has a stepdaughter, but normally she drives by herself.

SUVs were less common when I was a kid. It seemed like more families had minivans, but we had a station wagon, and four kids. We did plenty of road trips.

My mom gave up trying to explain why my sister needed a larger vehicle for fewer kids.

I have a station wagon, but my sister has an "SUV," although I want to argue that, I have AWD and she has FWD. Anyway, she has a 3.6-liter engine, and her vehicle has good power.

Who needs four liters?

Her 50% larger vehicle has the same EPA as my AWD. Yay.

[euromodder]

Originally Posted by Xist

Her 50% larger vehicle has the same EPA as my AWD. Yay.

AWD isn't very good for mileage ... especially not if it's a permanent AWD like Subaru favours.

Even LandRover have succumbed to the fact that many of its vehicles will never see mud and are now producing FWD-only versions for part of their range.
4WD versions are essentially operated as FWD, with the RWD added only when needed.

[Xist]

Originally Posted by euromodder

AWD isn't very good for mileage ... especially not if it's a permanent AWD like Subaru favours.

Even LandRover have succumbed to the fact that many of its vehicles will never see mud and are now producing FWD-only versions for part of their range.
4WD versions are essentially operated as FWD, with the RWD added only when needed.

Sooner or later I need to figure out what Subaru changed over fifteen years, because the 2,014 Forester is rated 32 MPG highway.

I think that her vehicle is nine years newer than mine, but full-time AWD does not benefit me at all.

[cRiPpLe_rOoStEr]

Originally Posted by Xist

Who needs four liters?

Just a few ones who really have some heavy stuff to haul would need bigger engines, but you might already know that some medium-duty trucks like the Ford Cargo are available with 4-pot engines where I live


This one might be what, Class 7? Fitted with the Cummins ISB3.9 rated at 170hp, with a GVWR exceeding 35000lbs.

[bestclimb]

Originally Posted by Xist

Sooner or later I need to figure out what Subaru changed over fifteen years, because the 2,014 Forester is rated 32 MPG highway.

I think that her vehicle is nine years newer than mine, but full-time AWD does not benefit me at all.

gear box from a late 80s with the selectable hi low front transaxle.