09-06-2008, 10:07 PM
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09-06-2008, 11:58 PM
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Hello,
What is your reasoning for doing this in the back?
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09-07-2008, 12:20 AM
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First off, you're already breaking one big law and that is on license plates -- I can't see it from either front OR back. This is bad and easy pickings for a ticketer. Next is looking or the appearance of security/stability. If it looks flimsy and could come off at any moment, this could provoke a pull-over and some explaining to THE MAN. Plus with so much cardboard, you'll get attention like basjoo does.
For testing this is fine but make sure to do this on some light/no traffic area that gets little attention from the police and make sure you either cut out some spots for the license plates to be seen at distance or move them into the windows (check your local vehicle codes for allowability here). I would also slap on MORE MORE MORE TAPE. I'm a big fan of blue tape ( ) but under stress at speed, they suck at holding onto anything... at all. Plus over time, they naturally lose their adhesive qualities and forcing it to hold on to cardboard just means it will come off sooner than later.
(this is why I made my rear skirts and front grill blocks literally out of just tape -- I figured they were small and light enough that if it does come off, it wouldn't pose as much of a threat as if a piece of cardboard flying off at 55mph. Plus tape on tape isn't exactly forcing the tape to work hard holding on to the car and itself)
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09-07-2008, 01:05 AM
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Wow when going through the pictures I didn't notice the plates thing but that is definitely a no-no if you want to stay under the radar. I would not rock that look, but if you continue to do so, atleast write that it is for FE on the cardboard. That will give an explanation to others looking at your car dumbfounded.
Like others say, that doesn't look to sturdy. It could fly off at any given time. That is a hazard in my book.
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09-07-2008, 01:59 AM
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It really was just for laughs. The sides were just on in the driveway, and I knew they wouldn't be on long so I didn't bother to use a lot of tape on them.
As for the rear, the license plate is in the window, and MI doesn't require a front plate.
The rear was just for fun too, but it held up at 50mph and didn't pull any tape off. I'll be removing the rear piece tomorrow.
The front really has a TON of tape on it, almost half the roll, and it was a pretty thick roll of tape. I think I am going to leave it on for a week or so to see if it improves anything, but if it does fall off, I'm guessing it won't just flat-out drop off the front of the car, so I'll be able to pull over and remove it easily if it gets loose or starts dragging.
Also, if it rains, everything will be removed ASAP, bacause believe me, wet blue tape is NO fun to remove.
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09-07-2008, 02:01 AM
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oh, and I was planning of writing something about FE on it, but I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'll probably do it tomorrow after I remove the back.
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09-07-2008, 02:37 AM
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Most states require your license plate to be mounted to the vehicle without anything blocking it's view, including clear covers or windows, your public library has the entire state statues that you can read and find out first hand what the law is.
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09-07-2008, 02:54 AM
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Michigan Vehicle Code Section 257.225 says that it must be "securely fastened... not less than 12 inches from the ground... in a place and position that is clearly visible... and in a clearly legible condition"
I did find out that it is illegal in MI to put your car in neutral on a down grade slope....
(doesn't say anything about turning the car off though.... )
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09-07-2008, 03:27 AM
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If it works out in the fuel savings department, you could always make a permanent one from truck mudflap material or coroplast.
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09-07-2008, 12:51 PM
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Yeah, I'm thinking that if it works, I will go get a scrapyard bumper and bolt some coroplast to it or something. That way I will be able to remove it and put on my original bumper if something happens to the coroplast and I won't have a bunch of holes left in my bumper.
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