03-02-2015, 05:37 AM
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I wonder if we have more new members from Cali than other areas... folks there may just be desensitized to higher gas prices.
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My MR2 blew its engine a few weeks ago and I sold the shell so I haven't driven around but I recall most stations that I've seen since being at or above $3. I think we Californians definitely are desensitized, I still think anything under $4 is a steal. I still fondly remember that $4.61 tank I once filled.
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03-02-2015, 05:38 AM
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Too many people equate gas usage with testosterone.
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03-02-2015, 09:31 AM
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The price of fuel is guaranteed to go above $3/gal in both nominal and real terms.
Just because Neil can afford a $40k vehicle doesn't mean others can
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Guaranteed is a strong word. Here are a couple reasons why I disagree:
1. Neil's ev lease cost ~$150/month IIRC.
2. You can buy a used Volt for <$20k. That's affordable for most.
3. CAFE standards
BTW I pay about $1.80/gallon in New Mexico. The indian reservations around here don't charge tax.
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03-02-2015, 09:43 AM
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As long as I can drive 1000 miles a month for the currrent $85 including insurance, there is no way I'm buying any expensive car. My recycled Fiesta was DEPRECIATING at $86.66 a month and it cost $10k.
That's 33.3 Sentras ($10k). How can an operatinal $300 car depreciate? Have a part fail that costs way more than the car is worth.
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03-02-2015, 12:43 PM
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Hi fuel in my area is 108.9 pence per litre and i live in a high fuel price zone. Scottish highlands and islands were every thing carries a surcharge except houses which are redicolusy cheap.
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03-03-2015, 02:50 AM
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Yay!!! We're #1!!!
Wait, I mean, oh #@&*, we're number 1!
Vancouver has highest gasoline prices in North America
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03-03-2015, 12:20 PM
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Congratulations! Buy a BMW i8 and save money!
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03-03-2015, 12:21 PM
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PS: expecting a massive influx of angry-and-looking-for-ways-to-save-fuel Vancouverites to the forum any minute now...
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03-03-2015, 12:43 PM
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PS: expecting a massive influx of angry-and-looking-for-ways-to-save-fuel Vancouverites to the forum any minute now...
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You'll have to wait until they return from Florida.
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03-03-2015, 09:09 PM
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The CA gas market is a separate entity due to the special blends required for clean burning. We may never see low fuel prices because of the niche market that out of state refiners do not want to mess with.
More interesting is the little known fact that US oil storage capacity is almost maxed out. If things continue, it will max out in the next 6 to 8 weeks. Been a long time since all of our storage capacity was full up. This will throw a curve ball at the oil traders so there will not be a place to store oil and they will not be able to create a false demand by filling up empty storage tanks.
The oil traders have been trying to bid the price of oil back up as much as possible in order to once again enjoy their obscene profits.
Another report claims the Saudis were watching the Keystone pipeline vote with an eye for profits. When the pipeline did not pass, they raised their prices for crude and the price of oil went up across the board. Amazing how a pipeline vote could change the price of Saudi crude. They must have been scared of what the pipeline could do to oil prices.
Saw another report that showed where we have excess capability to transport oil by rail and a pipeline would not change things in the short term.
Best way to beat the oil traders is to have everyone buy an energy efficient vehicle nation wide and make oil so undesirable for profit that the traders would seek an alternative commodity to manipulate for obscene profits.
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