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Old 10-08-2014, 03:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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gas is expensive, why is this hard to understand?

Hi everyone, just joined the site. i have a subaru outback and my wife has a subaru impreza. i dont think there is a better value than a subaru, wrong-wheel drive, or front-wheel drive, is not cool with me. the thing is my wife drives almost 100 miles a day, so a gas-sipper is important. her impreza averages 36 mpg but considering how she doesn't care at all about fuel economy thats very impressive. i think she can get over 40 if she actually paid attention to fuel consumption. i removed the spare, tools, and random crap inside, removed the stock snorkel for the air intake and charcoal filter, found on a subaru site that its ok, and also i removed the mud flaps. i cant do much else cuz she doesn't want her new car altered. the impreza may become my commuter one day when she wants something else.

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Welcome. How are you doing with the Outback? No reason you can't Ecomod your driving also known as "adjusting the nut behind the wheel" and reap benefits from it. See 65+ Vehicle modifications for better fuel economy - EcoModder.com. So why is it the guys get the hand me down car?
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Welcome to the site. 36 mpg is pretty impressive from an Impreza.
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36 in an Impreza is amazing. My Forester won't get better than 25.

You can make some alterations, but you'll have to be sneaky.

You can add aero improvements like a belly pan; she'll never see it.

A really well-done set of fender skirts that look factory will help a bunch. If you can cover her wheels to reduce their aero resistance, that'd be good.

Taking out the spare might have been a wrong step. If she's covering 100 per day, her commute is probably pretty long and on highways; weight reduction is good in town but doesn't contribute as big a savings when cruising.
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36 in an Impreza is amazing. My Forester won't get better than 25.

You can make some alterations, but you'll have to be sneaky.

You can add aero improvements like a belly pan; she'll never see it.

A really well-done set of fender skirts that look factory will help a bunch. If you can cover her wheels to reduce their aero resistance, that'd be good.

Taking out the spare might have been a wrong step. If she's covering 100 per day, her commute is probably pretty long and on highways; weight reduction is good in town but doesn't contribute as big a savings when cruising.
Its a 2012 Impreza, it took two years to avg 36. About the spare she doesn't even know how to change a tire. I'm thinking of blocking off the lower grill. I really doubt she'd let me put aero covers on the wheels, we got that particular trim level for those gunmetal wheels. Maybe I can convince her into winter tires and putting covers on16" wrx wheels(super light and super cheap)
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Oh yeah, it already has decent underbody panels that come stock.
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I was seeing an avg of 31 when my outback was new when the EPA rating is 22/29 but I've added so much stuff I only avg about 27 now. I'll add a pic later so you can see how unfriendly the mods are to fuel consumption.
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Subaru has come along as far as fuel economy is concerned.

I averaged 27mpg in a 2.2L Legacy manual, but as you mentioned, the newer Outbacks are easily able to achieve that. Do you have the CVT?

...and rear-wheel drive should never be referred to as wrong wheel drive. It's the best arrangement for powering a 4-wheeled vehicle. Steer with the front, power with the rear. It splits the duty of the wheels up nicely, and allows for fast and efficient driving. There is a reason F1 cars are rear-wheel drive.

That said, those that have not extensively explored the handling capabilities of their vehicle can quickly find themselves in trouble. My wife had a small scare in the Jeep Liberty when accelerating onto the freeway on a curved on-ramp. Me- I like to wag the tail for fun.
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Those stock underbody panels...are they still there?

I ask because my Fozz is supposed to have an engine tray; it's long gone at the hands of somebody working on it years ago. I didn't even realize it was gone until months later, by which time it was much too late to complain.
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i would never refer to rear wheel drive as wrong-wheel drive. i meant front-wheel drive is wrong-wheel drive. i've been into racing my entire life, i started out with formula cars. front-wheel drive is so horrible, torque-steer scares me more than spinning off a track with a few of the wheels in the air. but both my subarus are CVT. and yes the front undertray is still there. i was wondering if blocking the grill from behind would have any effect besides warming up the car sooner?

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