Gen 1 Prius, worth it?

[Baltothewolf]

Originally Posted by Xist

Are they just going to crush all old cars? Would it be feasible to sell in another country?

This reminds me of the episode "Half a Life" From Star Trek: The Next Generation.

That's the episode where Diana's mom falls in love with that guy that's going to commit suicide, no?

[Xist]

Originally Posted by Baltothewolf

That's the episode where Diana's mom falls in love with that guy that's going to commit suicide, no?

It was not his idea, it was the way his culture was set up, you are only allowed to live to be sixty.

[Hypermiler1995]

I would recommend a civic hy over any 1st gen prii, they are close in price, the civic has more headroom, the 1gen prii parts are crazy high, no refurbished batteries are made, and the civic would do better for hwy mpg (my guess).

[AlexanderB]

Originally Posted by Hypermiler1995

I would recommend a civic hy over any 1st gen prii, they are close in price

€1400~1800 versus €5000+, not really. I could easily buy a second gen, or perhaps even a somewhat poor condition third gen prius for 5k (I don't have 5k)

Originally Posted by Hypermiler1995

the civic has more headroom

Probably true, the first gen Prius looks pretty small to me, hence this topic. I've driven the civic, they're pretty nice.. Back seat doesn't fold flat though.

Originally Posted by Hypermiler1995

the 1gen prii parts are crazy high

A valid point, I might be better off with a Gen 2, even if its only a parts donor for my EV wishes (Not too attached to Prius, I just want an electric car..) A third gen would be eve better yet, but probably way out of my price range, even for a crashed one.

Originally Posted by Hypermiler1995

no refurbished batteries are made

Doesn't bother me so much, Theres still used cells, and otherwise I'll just replace the whole thing with lithium cells and a custom BMS.

Originally Posted by Hypermiler1995

and the civic would do better for hwy mpg (my guess).

Trying to do a full EV conversion, can't afford a new drive system, can't use used parts (like forklift stuff) unless its from an existing car. Just taking MG2 (and maybe MG1 with the planetary gears welded) and driving it from a lithium pack in the boot.

The tricky bit will either be hacking the ECU or replacing it with a custom programmed microcontroller to drive the MG2 at speeds over 54mph. Easy in hardware, its 99.9% a software problem.

[Hypermiler1995]

Originally Posted by AlexanderB

€1400~1800 versus €5000+, not really. I could easily buy a second gen, or perhaps even a somewhat poor condition third gen prius for 5k (I don't have 5k)

The prices must be way different there, Around here the 03-05 civic hy is about the same price as a 1st gen prii, 06+ Civic about the same as similar yr 2nd gen. prii.

[AlexanderB]

Well, the cheapest Civic for sale is a '07 one for €5k, in fact, most of them are '07 to '11, for €5k and up. Theres a single '05 one for sale for €7k.

A '01 Prius is a couple years older, so probably a little more depreciated. The gen 2 Prius'es ('05 to '09) are more expensive, like €5k and up, so pretty much comparable to the Civics here in both age and price.

[appledear]

Give you a solution: add a PHEV hybrid conversion kit on the car