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to the Earth's surface
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"to Earth's surface"
I had other plans for today.
condescension
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I'll have to get back to you on this one.
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1) The heliosphere reaches out 9,300,000,000-miles from the Sun's surface. From where, to Earth's surface are we talking? I'm just trying to narrow the field. It's that inverse-square law thing.
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05-26-2022, 03:10 PM
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How would they know anything?
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How does your comment move the discussion forward.
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Epistemology
Epistemology, or the theory of knowledge, is the branch of philosophy concerned with knowledge. Epistemologists study the nature, origin, and scope of knowledge, epistemic justification, the rationality of belief, and various related issues.Wikipedia
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1) The heliosphere reaches out 9,300,000,000-miles from the Sun's surface. From where, to Earth's surface are we talking? I'm just trying to narrow the field. It's that inverse-square law thing.
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Heliosphere, Ionosphere, Thermosphere, Mesosphere. Stratosphere, Lithosphere, Mantle.
Meditate on this:
https://nasaviz.gsfc.nasa.gov/4641
NASA have moved beyond your Crystal Spheres weltanschauung. I highly recommend the video at #25. It starts with Plato. And gets you to co-axial filaments without any cable.
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05-26-2022, 04:08 PM
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comment... heliosphere... meditate
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How does your comment move the discussion forward.
Heliosphere, Ionosphere, Thermosphere, Mesosphere. Stratosphere, Lithosphere, Mantle.
Meditate on this:
https://nasaviz.gsfc.nasa.gov/4641
NASA have moved beyond your Crystal Spheres weltanschauung. I highly recommend the video at #25. It starts with Plato. And gets you to co-axial filaments without any cable.
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1) The question is quite straightforward. There's a reason why you're using ESA data. I'd like to know why you use it.
2) The question about the heliosphere is also quite straightforward. Are you ever going to give me a simple answer?
3) Of all the 'spheres' you mention, the troposphere has been omitted. It's the only 'sphere' which is germane to the topic of global cooling. Why do you intentionally deflect the conversation away from the only thing associated with the subject.
4) And add to it, as if we haven't moved away from the subject far enough already.
5) If you want to discuss failed philosophers you could start your own dedicated thread.
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05-26-2022, 05:19 PM
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How would they know anything?
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There's a reason why you're using ESA data. I'd like to know why you use it.
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It's their satellite constellation?
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https://earth.esa.int › eogateway › missions › swarm
Swarm - Earth Online - European Space Agency
Swarm is ESA's first constellation mission for Earth Observation (EO). The mission consists of three identical satellites named Alpha, Bravo, and Charlie (A, B and C); which were launched on 22 November 2013 into a near-polar orbit.
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At least, according to DuckDuckGo and therefore Bing, therefore Microsoft.
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Of all the 'spheres' you mention, the troposphere has been omitted. It's the only 'sphere' which is germane to the topic of global cooling. Why do you intentionally deflect the conversation away from the only thing associated with the subject..
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Why do you number your paragraphs?
I kept adding to the list when I found out what ITM stood for. I didn't realize the troposphere is the only one that counts.
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Please describe Birkeland currents and Alfvén waves in your own words.
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05-26-2022, 05:24 PM
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Perhaps you want to recalculate your velocity for protons. I believe you'll find that you're off by some orders of magnitude.
All who routinely observe the sky are acquainted with aurorae, a classic phenomena associated with plasma bombardment of the magnetosphere.
One example of something happening, which nullifies your argument.
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I was talking about solar flates. The solar protons start to hit the poles hit with in seconds or minutes of observing a solar flare pop off then last up to a few hours. If you don't know that why are you even commenting on this subject at all.
The only thing null is man made global warming.
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05-26-2022, 05:47 PM
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satellite trio
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It's their satellite constellation?
At least, according to DuckDuckGo and therefore Bing, therefore Microsoft.
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Why do you number your paragraphs?
I kept adding to the list when I found out what ITM stood for. I didn't realize the troposphere is the only one that counts.
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1) Okay, ESA has a trio of earth observing satellites. Their instrument suites don't contain any facility for monitoring the troposphere. The troposphere is where 'climate' is. You've known this for years now. Space weather has nothing to do with global climate change. I can't comprehend why space weather is your go-to for nearly any topic which comes up.
2) I number my paragraphs because you requested that I do it many months ago. So we could segregate thoughts, item by item.
3) I don't know what ITM stands for.
4) Birkeland currents aren't on the table for discussion at this thread.
5) Alfven waves I brought up a year or so ago when you couldn't remember them. Why don't you read my replies when I give them. Are you just into total disrespect? A pen, paper, ring binder, and top-loading sheet protectors would allow you to assemble work books assigned to specific topics. That's what I do.
6) If you want to demonstrate space weather prowess, start a dedicated thread. I promise that I won't disturb you there. I don't do space weather anymore. If you've read my comments over the past year, you know why.
Apology, I forgot about 'Cosmic Catastrophe' from 2019.
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05-26-2022, 06:04 PM
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seconds or minutes
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I was talking about solar flates. The solar protons start to hit the poles hit with in seconds or minutes of observing a solar flare pop off then last up to a few hours. If you don't know that why are you even commenting on this subject at all.
The only thing null is man made global warming.
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A) The speed of light 'c', is 186,000-miles per second.
B) Earth is an average 92,960,000-miles from the Sun.
C) 92,960,000 / 186,000 = 499.784-seconds transit time between Sun and Earth.
D) 499.7840seconds / 60-seconds/minute = 8.329-minutes transit time for light, between Sun and Earth
E) I quit bringing my space weather workbook with me, so I'm at a loss to tell what the velocity of the solar wind is. It is 'ORDERS OF MAGNITUDE' slower than the speed of light.
F) I'm commenting for the benefit of our guests, as you're obviously struggling to keep your quanta in order. Someone's got to do it.
G) I won't dignify your last comment with a response.
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1) Okay, ESA has a trio of earth observing satellites. Their instrument suites don't contain any facility for monitoring the troposphere. The troposphere is where 'climate' is. You've known this for years now. Space weather has nothing to do with global climate change. I can't comprehend why space weather is your go-to for nearly any topic which comes up.
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Should I be using the term Space Climate?
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2) I number my paragraphs because you requested that I do it many months ago. So we could segregate thoughts, item by item.
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Oh, Okay. The line numbering is defeated by the line wrap so I didn't recognize what you're doing. I'm actually flattered. My apology.
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3) I don't know what ITM stands for.
4) Birkeland currents aren't on the table for discussion at this thread.
5) Alfven waves I brought up a year or so ago when you couldn't remember them.
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Your thread [shrug]
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Why don't you read my replies when I give them. Are you just into total disrespect? A pen, paper, ring binder, and top-loading sheet protectors would allow you to assemble work books assigned to specific topics. That's what I do.
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I didn't know there'd be a quiz. Put the explication of Terrestrial Atmospheric ITM Processes in your binder.
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6) If you want to demonstrate space weather prowess, start a dedicated thread...
Apology, I forgot about 'Cosmic Catastrophe' from 2019.
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You are welcome in my thread.
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05-26-2022, 07:15 PM
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Should I be using the term Space Climate?
Oh, Okay. The line numbering is defeated by the line wrap so I didn't recognize what you're doing. I'm actually flattered. My apology.
Your thread [shrug]
I didn't know there'd be a quiz. Put the explication of Terrestrial Atmospheric ITM Processes in your binder.
You are welcome in my thread.
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Please don't say anything about space climate.
Please don't say anything about space weather.
If you want to contribute, limit your remarks to global cooling.
This may be my thread, however, I have no recollection of ever using 'ITM' in any posting.
So you don't read what I post. I've explained why I left 'Cosmic Catastrophe.'
I think I'll just abandon this thread. There's no future in it.
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05-26-2022, 08:26 PM
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It's all cool.
ITM defined at Permalink #32.
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