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Old 12-02-2018, 12:41 PM   #41 (permalink)
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It is interesting, however; that they have cancelled the Volt from presumably low profitability. But.... has anyone EVER seen advertising for the Volt?
I have seen advertising for the early Volt, even though it was never officially sold here.

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Old 12-02-2018, 02:45 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Electric motors don't really get much better over time. Maybe they will go from 95% efficient to 96% efficient with great difficulty, but there isn't much room for improvement.
Maybe the separate pieces like motors & batteries won't improve much. What would improve with experience is the knowhow of assembling the pieces inexpensively, and making the entire thing reliable. Consider the way conventional cars aren't fundamentally different from those made decades ago, but are a lot more reliable, and AFAIK cost less to assemble (for an equivalent: of course different regulations have increased costs).
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Nobody wants a small car.
The Volt isn't a small car
It's only small in oversized US thinking
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It is odd that GM is killing the Volt, since recent press releases from GM say that they are going to redirect their efforts towards EVs and autonomous vehicles.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:28 PM   #45 (permalink)
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The Volt isn't a small car
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Ever been in one? It's a small car.
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Old 12-04-2018, 12:56 AM   #46 (permalink)
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It is odd that GM is killing the Volt, since recent press releases from GM say that they are going to redirect their efforts towards EVs and autonomous vehicles.
Even though a hybrid is not the same as a full-EV, such move is in fact quite odd. Well, I still wouldn't hold my breath for GM to shift radically toward EVs on short-to-mid term, and I'm also quite skeptical when it comes to fully autonomous vehicles, but the Voltec system is still a valuable asset when it comes to addressing the range-anxiety issue which is still a relevant matter for the more conservative buyers.
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Ever been in one? It's a small car.
I think you must be using the mainstream American definition of "small" :-) A-H Sprite, the original Mini, the 1st gen Honda Civic - now those were small cars.
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I don't feel cramped in mine, and I am not a small guy.
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I don't feel cramped in mine, and I am not a small guy.
I dont feel cramped in mine... until I get my wife and two kids in it. Its tolerable but I would still classify this as small. I have to put my seat uncomfortably close to the steering wheel so I dont break my kids legs behind me.
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Is the L.A. auto show on yet?

I figure the news of the Volt's demise will expedite an announcement about whichever crossover/SUV will be next to get the Volt's tech.

They've sunk billions into R&D of that drivetrain, so there's no way it'll go in the bin. It's just a matter of time to the announcement.
Having that battery pack eat up the 5th seat (in my 1st gen, at least) is a bit of a drag, only because my dog (60 lb boxer) does not have alot of room to stretch out on long trips. We have considered having the luggage on the folded down rear seats and letting him lay in a bed in the cargo area.

Otherwise, it is a great car and I will keep it as long as I can get keep getting battery parts (it was just replaced under warranty and I get another 8 years / X miles, though I hope some fine print does not do away with that because the car has gone bye-bye)

I hope they resurrect the Volt with a Bolt/Tesla skateboard like arrangement so it can be a 5 seater hatch with that low center of gravity. If we get a Serial Hybrid SUV (The GM Jolt?) with a large enough pack to get 60 miles on a charge (summer, no A/C) with a generator that consumes, at most, 3 gallons per 100 miles, I guess I will be ok with that.

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