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Old 01-13-2010, 02:13 PM   #21 (permalink)
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If my legs were flamingo-hinged, that just might work.
It's a little bigger than it looks, when I first saw it I was thinking samurai-size, but it's kinda more trooper-size. At 6'1" I'd confidently hop into one. But regardless of brand and model, that vehicle does illustrate how to shrink the front of a pickup without necessarily shrinking the bed. If they wanted to take a serious bite outta the pickup market it would have to be a serious pickup though... not an exercise in half-assery like the ridgeline.

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I wonder if this counts as a "bare necessity car": http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...nal-11841.html
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Introducing the 2011 General Motors "Bare Necessity Car & Truck"




Comes with these fresh-for-2011 features! Runs on "Green" Biodiesel! Gets 40+ Mpg! Made from 90% recyclable material! (aka steel)
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Introducing the 2011 General Motors "Bare Necessity Car & Truck"




Comes with these fresh-for-2011 features! Runs on "Green" Biodiesel! Gets 40+ Mpg! Made from 90% recyclable material! (aka steel)
They still make them too!
Edit: found a Wikipedia link to them HERE
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It's a little bigger than it looks, when I first saw it I was thinking samurai-size, but it's kinda more trooper-size. At 6'1" I'd confidently hop into one. But regardless of brand and model, that vehicle does illustrate how to shrink the front of a pickup without necessarily shrinking the bed. If they wanted to take a serious bite outta the pickup market it would have to be a serious pickup though... not an exercise in half-assery like the ridgeline.
If it's that big, then what purpose does grafting an old van nose onto it serve?

Like taking a few inches of wheelbase and hood out if it does anything to improve efficiency?

Speaking of efficiency, I wanted to reach through the computer and strangle those punks on that video. They said "efficiency" about 87 times but didn't back it up with ANYTHING.
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If it's that big, then what purpose does grafting an old van nose onto it serve?

Like taking a few inches of wheelbase and hood out if it does anything to improve efficiency?
Less materials, less mass? I don't think making the first 5 feet of a vehicle serve no purpose beyond housing the prime mover, is a particularly efficient idea - especially given that it's fairly well established that a blunt nose can be about as aero-efficient as a sloping one.
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Were I to dig long enough I could probably find a pic of a '70s Chevy van chopped into a single cab with a pickup box on the back. There ya have it. Instant reduced driver ergos and engine access with no functional improvements.
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HA! I saw one in MN too!

Actually the one I saw looked pretty nice- I wanted to chase it down and talk to the guy but didn't.
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Thinking of trucks, the easiest way to increase a trucks FE is to decrease its frontal area AKA skinny, best examples are kei trucks, there is one Daihatsu in CA legally licensed has a turbo 660cc 2 cycle with a dual range 6sp transmission and 4wd. He bought it from the parks service, small as it is rated at 3/4 ton and he pulls an 20ft enclosed trailer with it. And it is dimensionally very small, without a load it gets in the 30's for FE

Perhaps time to reconsider how trucks are rated and built, there are many who use a truck but need a full size because of weight and strength limitations & reliability not because they need the full dimensions of the bed.

Just a thought, I love kei trucks but wish they were longer with a diesel

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