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Old 06-25-2008, 01:54 AM   #11 (permalink)
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"How can you sell a battery for thirty bucks if there is 6 labor hours in it?" Exactly what I was thinking, haha.
Yeah, I've seen the production lines. They are just as he described. In addition, 98% of the metals used are recyled when the batteries are disposed of. It's a great model to use as a reference, at every level.

I'm really getting excited about the batteries.

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Old 06-25-2008, 01:54 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Old 06-25-2008, 01:56 AM   #13 (permalink)
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He reminds me of nearly every old male CEO I know. That's not a bad thing, necessarily.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:55 PM   #14 (permalink)
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my Group 49 batter was $110 from the dealership, and that was with 10% off with my club discount. Its the proper battery for the benz.. +4 concourse points...
That's 'cause you're being a Mercedes purist, and you know it!
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Don't vampires have to wear sunglasses in daylight?

What a chucklehead. Claiming that the other auto companies are jumping on GM's bandwagon when Toyota and Honda were way ahead with their hybrids and smaller startups have been producing BEV's for years. He could say that if he hadn't killed the EV1. GM has no credibility after all the crap they have pulled over the years. Fighting efficiency and emissions reductions tooth and nail, selling off the Ovonic batteries, DRL's. This is all PR. If the price of oil drops they will drop the volt like a hot potato. I'll believe it when I see it.

Battery wise I think he's talking about wholesale lead acid pricing here. The $30 price, In bulk, to supply GM directly. Us poor suckers have to buy retail. BTW I think standard car batteries are not worth the $ when you can get deep cycle for a little more and really use them sans alternator for most trips.

Battery tip: Plan to buy deep cycles in late summer early fall when retailers are clearing seasonal stock. They don't sell many in the winter because most people are buying for recreational vehicles. In September picked up 120 ah deep cycles at costco for $49CAD 1/2 price.
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Old 10-19-2008, 06:14 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I thought 5 minutes. So not too far off. Mostly everything regarding cars is made by machines so no big surprise.
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