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Old 07-15-2016, 12:17 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Heat up the gasoline

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Did someone here try to heat up the gasoline in order to improve mileage? What I mean is heat up the gasoline near the fuel rail in order get better fuel vaporization.

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I live in Canada and the gas companies here use a more volatile gas for the winter. This is the reason why I'm asking myself about do we get better mileage if the gas was heated little bit in order to increase its volatility.

I also know some diesel vehicles have fuel heater.
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Air and fuel get mixed at a 14:1 ratio.
Heating up the fuel does next to nothing to aid combustion. It gets lost in all the cold air.

Heating up the air instead is effective - and it reduces pumping losses at half load as a bonus.
Check out all the threads on Warm Air Intakes (WAI) on this site.
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...just feel the fuel rail once the engine is warmed up, it'll be pretty hot.
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Diesels have a fuel heater to remove filter water and wax build.
Cummins marine does not recommend heating diesel fuel before the fuel injection pump. Diesels operated in the extreme cold have fuel heaters to prevent filter icing and waxing.
With a diesel the injector is screwed into the cylinder head, so the fuel that is injected into the cylinder is the same temperature as the coolant.
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What kind of car do you have?
Also if your car has a metal intake manifold that the injectors are set into then the fuel is already likely being injected close to engine operating temperature.
This is what I will be working on this winter for my carbed vehicle:
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I have a 2000 civic dx automatic. I can get 44mpg full tank in a hwy.

For now I trying to find a temperature probe that I can monitoring the fuel rail temperature, and the fuel line between the filter and the rail as well. I want to know what are those temperatures while the car is idling and while I'm driving in a hwy.

Probably next step is installing some air blocker in front of the fuel rail and the fuel line to let them keep the heat while I'm driving in a hwy.

The best is to have a temperature sensor inside of fuel rail like the coolant system. But this setup is too much complicated to realize. But for now I just want to know if the fuel temperature has any impact on the mileage.

Regarding your carbed vehicle projet. Me too, I really want to know the outcome.

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