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Old 09-13-2012, 10:03 AM   #21 (permalink)
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if you have a smart phone, i highly suggest the Gasbuddy app. it will show you the prices of stations near you so you can find the lowest price. also, if you register on their site they will send you price hike alerts. im not affiliated with gasbuddy, just a very satisfied user.

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Old 09-13-2012, 10:14 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Because inflation numbers can be skewed as well, so why not compare it to a figure like how much you can get for an hour of work? and other peoples wages tend to be based off minimum wage as well so I thought I would put that out there as another reference point
yes and no ... taking the minimum wage as a reference will skew you calculations even more since it doesn't take payroll deductions and sales taxes into account and those tend to vary from one decade to another! So someones' "buying power" can vary a lot depending on these.
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All fuels were over $5 at Yosemite...
Sure. The gas station, like any business there, has to pay pretty hefty Park Service concession fees. Plus they've got a captive market: if you'd been dumb enough to drive into Yosemite without filling the tank first, you'd pay.

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89 was $4.7 somewhere along CA 156 / 101 ! Hello-oh !

Fuel prices seem to vary wildly in CA.
A lot of that is due to the fire that shut down a major Northern California refinery a few weeks ago. Supply goes down, price goes up. (I think that's covered in Economics 101.) We get most of the gas here from that area, and prices have gone up 40-50 cents/gal in the last few weeks.
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:09 PM   #24 (permalink)
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We don't get our gas from there and prices have gone up 30 cents.
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I wonder if 3-wheeler @ 115 mpg thinks very much about fuel prices? I know that at 56 mpg I will be laughing at fuel prices until they get to $5/L [$19/gal]. At which point I will be singing with the quire, unless of course I can get to over 100 mpg...
I can tell you I don't think/worry about the price of gas at all. I wouldn't care (personally) if it doubled in price. I've isolated myself enough, with a combination of short work commutes and high mpg cars, that it doesn't even matter.
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We don't get our gas from there and prices have gone up 30 cents.
Because they're still getting gas. From the refineries that normally supply you.
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I wonder if 3-wheeler @ 115 mpg thinks very much about fuel prices? I know that at 56 mpg I will be laughing at fuel prices until they get to $5/L [$19/gal]. At which point I will be singing with the quire, unless of course I can get to over 100 mpg...
Yaris,

I read these posts just as much as anyone else!

Yes, it's great when others here on EM are trying to save fuel and reduce "earth heating" at the same time.

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how I wish I could go back to the days when I started driving at 30 something cents a liter!!!

Still remember when gas station had to go over 1$ and add a space on their price board, everybody was freaking out! hahahahaha (crying a little at the same time as laughing)
The harder part was retrofitting their pumps with the gearing to spin another row of numbers in the price. The pumps had been built to handle a max price of 99 cents/gallon.
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I know that at 56 mpg I will be laughing at fuel prices until they get to $5/L [$19/gal].
I predict your laughter to cease at a much lower price.

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I can tell you I don't think/worry about the price of gas at all. I wouldn't care (personally) if it doubled in price. I've isolated myself enough, with a combination of short work commutes and high mpg cars, that it doesn't even matter.
You don't travel by plane? You grow your own food? Your consumption doesn't include many petroleum products?

It's hard to believe you have isolated yourself enough from the price of fossil fuels to not worry about how it will affect your lifestyle and standard of living.

The price of oil matters to nearly everyone, whether they want to admit it or not.
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Old 09-15-2012, 11:45 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I think about it but don't worry about it either as I've largely insulated my budget from oil prices. How? No daily commute and very little recreational tearing around via ICE. When I do drive the Tempo it gets high 30s/low 40s mpgs. Local transpo needs largely satisfied with walking, bicycling, and electric scootering. Not many shopping trips- mostly scavenging trips. Not much for flying around. When I sometimes feel like wasting my money at the casino, I make them drive me there and home via the courtesy van- it's the least they could do!

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The price of oil matters to nearly everyone, whether they want to admit it or not.
It's funny... who the price of oil matters to and who it doesn't. You'd sure think the young'uns with their wages generally at the lower end (come to think of it, most anyone with lower end wages) would be the most concerned about oil prices, but the anecdotal evidence I see every day indicates that group is the least concerned, judging by all their stupid wasteful tearing around in what are usually the least fuel efficient vehicles they can get their hands on. Oh well.

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I know that at 56 mpg I will be laughing at fuel prices until they get to $5/L [$19/gal].
I laugh at them too; recognizing that fuel prices are only a portion of the cents/mile equation, and I'm generally under 10 cents/mile while the statistics say the average U.S. SUV/PU motorist is at 60 cents/mile (6x higher) could mean that if $4 gas is a tipping point of some sort for Ms. Average, all else being equal, I don't need to worry until it's 4 x 6 = $24/gallon.

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