09-18-2013, 12:50 AM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
Exceptional Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 166
Thanks: 27
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
|
Honda drivers, are you accounting for the inflated odometer reading in your MPG?
This should be a lively topic. I've often thought about this and never notice anyone mention it in their mileage calculations. Honda has been sued over their bogus odometer readings, I believe more than once. I recall a warranty extension for millions of cars. I know my 95 Accord reads conveniently high. Not the quite the 4% of some Honda's but still too much. This issue applies to some Nissan/Infiniti vehicles as well. I know no one likes getting lower mpg but I think we all appreciate accuracy.
__________________
Don't know why it says 00, it's a 95
374,000 miles and tired.
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
09-18-2013, 01:14 AM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Missouri
Posts: 540
Thanks: 30
Thanked 190 Times in 110 Posts
|
In my 98 Civic, the speedo is off, yet the odometer is right on the money in factory form. Since I have over sized tires, I have to add 5% distance to my MPG calculations, but it corrected the factory speedometer to GPS indicated speed.
I originally believed that since my speedometer was indicating the GPS speed, my odometer must be accurate. Guess not!
|
|
|
09-18-2013, 01:19 AM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
Exceptional Member
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 166
Thanks: 27
Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbaber
In my 98 Civic, the speedo is off, yet the odometer is right on the money in factory form. Since I have over sized tires, I have to add 5% distance to my MPG calculations, but it corrected the factory speedometer to GPS indicated speed.
I originally believed that since my speedometer was indicating the GPS speed, my odometer must be accurate. Guess not!
|
That's a twist, I expected the two to be in sync. I better check my OD now.
__________________
Don't know why it says 00, it's a 95
374,000 miles and tired.
Last edited by YukonCornelius; 09-18-2013 at 01:37 AM..
|
|
|
09-18-2013, 03:40 AM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
Wanting more for less
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: New South Wales, Australia
Posts: 313
Thanks: 23
Thanked 73 Times in 45 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by cbaber
In my 98 Civic, the speedo is off, yet the odometer is right on the money in factory form. Since I have over sized tires, I have to add 5% distance to my MPG calculations, but it corrected the factory speedometer to GPS indicated speed.
I originally believed that since my speedometer was indicating the GPS speed, my odometer must be accurate. Guess not!
|
It's not only Hondas, I found similar inaccuracy with my Mazda.
On standard size tyres, the speedo reads fast & the odo reads slow (compared to my GPS).
On the taller tyres I run now, the speedo is correct and I multiply the odo readings by 1.057 when calculating my MPG.
__________________
|
|
|
09-18-2013, 03:49 AM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
5 Gears of Fury
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada
Posts: 1,230
Thanks: 175
Thanked 176 Times in 137 Posts
|
My Honda is 23 years old, I would think that any issues it came with have only been made worse over the years. But for me, since I don't use GPS or any other instrumentation to verify my results, I am not super concerned with the accuracy of the odometer. Maybe I avg 37 mpg, maybe in reality it's 34? The part that interests me is the improvement I can make in whatever number I am getting. I am assuming that any issues with accuracy are at least consistent issues (ie being off a few percent when new compounded with years of wear), so as long as everything stays at the same level of broken then I can at least track my improvements!
__________________
"Don't look for one place to lose 100 pounds, look for 1600 places to lose an ounce." - Tony DeFeo
|
|
|
09-18-2013, 03:50 AM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
Corporate imperialist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NewMexico (USA)
Posts: 11,266
Thanks: 273
Thanked 3,569 Times in 2,833 Posts
|
I don't have a Honda but I do have to make an odometer correction.
I have checked my odometer against mile markers and GPS, averaged the difference (less than 1% between the 2 methods) and figured I have to add 3% to my suburban odometer mileage.
Found out recently that is because some time in the past the 3.08 rear end that my suburban left the factory came with was swapped for a 3.42 unit.
__________________
1984 chevy suburban, custom made 6.5L diesel turbocharged with a Garrett T76 and Holset HE351VE, 22:1 compression 13psi of intercooled boost.
1989 firebird mostly stock. Aside from the 6-speed manual trans, corvette gen 5 front brakes, 1LE drive shaft, 4th Gen disc brake fbody rear end.
2011 leaf SL, white, portable 240v CHAdeMO, trailer hitch, new batt as of 2014.
|
|
|
09-18-2013, 05:11 AM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
Too many cars
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: New York State
Posts: 1,605
Thanks: 1,356
Thanked 801 Times in 477 Posts
|
I checked my odometer against a GPS and I have to adjust my mileage. My odometer is actually underreporting due to the size of my tires.
__________________
2000 Honda Insight
2000 Honda Insight
2000 Honda Insight
2006 Honda Insight (parts car)
1988 Honda CRXFi
1994 Geo Metro
|
|
|
09-18-2013, 05:26 AM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
Master EcoWalker
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Nieuwegein, the Netherlands
Posts: 3,999
Thanks: 1,714
Thanked 2,247 Times in 1,455 Posts
|
My odometer is underreporting by at least 1%.
Yesterday I took a trip that both Google and my TomTom said would be 83.1 km long.
Ended up @ 82 km dead on the driveway.
I see the same pattern on my commute: the odometer reports about 0.5 km less than the GPS shows for 36 km.
Car has the original 185/55/R16 tires for 15,000 km. Same with the 175/65/R15 winter tires.
I did add liters to my fuel log for using a fuel pump that is off. Should I now also add some kms for my underreading odometer?
When precision and vanity go hand in hand, should I give in?
__________________
2011 Honda Insight + HID, LEDs, tiny PV panel, extra brake pad return springs, neutral wheel alignment, 44/42 PSI (air), PHEV light (inop), tightened wheel nut.
lifetime FE over 0.2 Gmeter or 0.13 Mmile.
For confirmation go to people just like you.
For education go to people unlike yourself.
Last edited by RedDevil; 09-18-2013 at 04:17 PM..
|
|
|
09-18-2013, 04:12 PM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
.........................
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Buckley, WA
Posts: 1,597
Thanks: 391
Thanked 488 Times in 316 Posts
|
In Washington state, there are a bunch of odometer check stations on the freeway. Five miles, precisely marked off in one mile increments. Based on that I know my odometer is 1% or less off in my '01 Civic. That's close enough for me.
|
|
|
09-18-2013, 06:01 PM
|
#10 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Belgium
Posts: 4,683
Thanks: 178
Thanked 652 Times in 516 Posts
|
1% is 1%
I'd add it.
I'm adding 3.4% due to larger tyres, but I really should check the odometer against GPS / kilometre signposts.
In my experience though,
speed is always overreported
(as legally they may not show you're going slower than you actually are)
odometer OTOH is quite correct
In the up! , the speedo even shows a different speed than the digital speed readout buried in the OBC !
Speedo indicates highest.
OBC reports a few kph less than speedo.
GPS reports yet another few kph less than OBC ...
And that's even despite the tires being too large!
__________________
Strayed to the Dark Diesel Side
|
|
|
|