Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 11-25-2009, 06:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
Cd
Ultimate Fail
 
Cd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Austin,Texas
Posts: 3,585
Thanks: 2,872
Thanked 1,121 Times in 679 Posts
And the question on everyones mind is ........

When you finish this thing, are you going to make a mold of it so you can sell it ???

If I had an Insight, I would pay good money for a 'pan like you have produced.

Very, very professional.
Well done !

  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Cd For This Useful Post:
Xist (12-28-2014)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 11-25-2009, 10:29 PM   #32 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
3-Wheeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern WI
Posts: 829

AlienMobile - '00 Honda Insight
Team Honda
90 day: 80.05 mpg (US)
Thanks: 101
Thanked 563 Times in 191 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertSmalls View Post
You mentioned somewhere that you've insulated your catalytic converter to keep underhood temps down. What kind of insulation did you use?
Hi Robert,

The cat is surrounded with fiber glass batting. The same stuff that is used for thermal insulation in houses. Obviously, there is no paper backing, just the glass, which has a melt point of about 2000°F. Steel melts around 2500°F or so and starts to glow dull red about 1500°F or so.

So the glass *should* be able to take the heat from the cat.

Jim.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2009, 10:33 PM   #33 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
3-Wheeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern WI
Posts: 829

AlienMobile - '00 Honda Insight
Team Honda
90 day: 80.05 mpg (US)
Thanks: 101
Thanked 563 Times in 191 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by MetroMPG View Post
Thanks for the additional glue tips!

Did you also paint that motorbike fairing yourself? It's pretty darned shiny. (Having seen your attention to detail in the belly pan, I wouldn't be surprised.)
Hi Metro,

I painted the three colors in fast drying lacquer, so the bugs would not have time to stick to the fresh paint.

My brother shot the two-part clear coat in his garage, and guess what... there were flys stuck to it after the paint dried. LOL.

Jim.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2009, 10:36 PM   #34 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
3-Wheeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern WI
Posts: 829

AlienMobile - '00 Honda Insight
Team Honda
90 day: 80.05 mpg (US)
Thanks: 101
Thanked 563 Times in 191 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by discovery View Post
That really looks nice and healthy, keep up the good work, what are the MPG numbers?
Hi discovery,

My best MPG from the motorcycle is 80 mpg at 45 mph. I've been eco-milling the bike since the spring of 2007.

Typical mileage is from 70 to 75 mpg or so. I ride rain or shine when the weather is above 40°F or so, especially when working on the Insight.

Last edited by 3-Wheeler; 11-25-2009 at 10:53 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-25-2009, 10:43 PM   #35 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
3-Wheeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern WI
Posts: 829

AlienMobile - '00 Honda Insight
Team Honda
90 day: 80.05 mpg (US)
Thanks: 101
Thanked 563 Times in 191 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cd View Post
And the question on everyones mind is ........

When you finish this thing, are you going to make a mold of it so you can sell it ???
Hi Cd,

I didn't have plans to make any parts that big and the custom mounts to the car could make it harder to sell. Especially those on the back by the gas tank area.

However, I can certainly see the day coming when I would want to make a boat tail for the car.

Jim.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 02:42 PM   #36 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
3-Wheeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern WI
Posts: 829

AlienMobile - '00 Honda Insight
Team Honda
90 day: 80.05 mpg (US)
Thanks: 101
Thanked 563 Times in 191 Posts
Here's encouragement for those thinking of under-body panels, and mixing this up with winter driving.

Several weeks back we got about 3 inches of soft, powdery snow at night. Normally this would not be a problem to drive through, but the winds were gusting to 30 mph or so...

On the way home it was already dark, and I turned down an old country road... and suddenly realized the drifted snow is at least six inches deep and the Insight only has 5 inches of clearance, and stock tires.

In the really deep stuff, the car felt like it 'floated' over the snow and did not seem to 'grab' the snow like the old Cavalier did in the same scenario.

Fortunately, the snow was not hard packed, or the situation might have been different.

Knock on wood, but so far, so good.

Jim.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 03:15 PM   #37 (permalink)
That VX guy!
 
TomO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Mini Soda
Posts: 829

The VX - '92 Honda Civic VX
Thanks: 75
Thanked 80 Times in 53 Posts
Send a message via AIM to TomO Send a message via Yahoo to TomO
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3-Wheeler View Post
In the really deep stuff, the car felt like it 'floated' over the snow and did not seem to 'grab' the snow like the old Cavalier did in the same scenario.
I've done the same thing in my VX with the under pan. I actually lifted the wheels off the ground though.

Your Insight has 5" of ground clearance while at rest, but remember that there are a few inches of upward and downward travel available as well. Sounds like you were still catching traction with the wheels on the ground and the snow was lifting some bulk of the car of the suspension.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3-Wheeler View Post
Fortunately, the snow was not hard packed, or the situation might have been different.

Knock on wood, but so far, so good.

Jim.
Been there with the hard pack and ended up ripping off half my under pan. good thing I could jsut throw a new sheet of Coroplast back on when I got home.
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 04:32 PM   #38 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: usa
Posts: 105
Thanks: 18
Thanked 30 Times in 19 Posts


5.9 inches
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 07:38 PM   #39 (permalink)
Left Lane Ecodriver
 
RobertSmalls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA
Posts: 2,257

Prius C - '12 Toyota Prius C
Thanks: 79
Thanked 287 Times in 200 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3-Wheeler View Post
On the way home it was already dark, and I turned down an old country road... and suddenly realized the drifted snow is at least six inches deep and the Insight only has 5 inches of clearance, and stock tires.
I've been watching your fuel log, and wondering how you managed to prevent your gas mileage from falling with the onset of winter. Summer tires in the winter, eh? You're crazy.

Btw, the Blizzak MZ-03 will hurt your gas mileage, but they're competent on snow and ice, unlike the Potenza RE92's.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-04-2010, 10:31 PM   #40 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
3-Wheeler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Southern WI
Posts: 829

AlienMobile - '00 Honda Insight
Team Honda
90 day: 80.05 mpg (US)
Thanks: 101
Thanked 563 Times in 191 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobertSmalls View Post
I've been watching your fuel log, and wondering how you managed to prevent your gas mileage from falling with the onset of winter. Summer tires in the winter, eh? You're crazy. ...
Hi Robert,

Snow tires haven't been on any of my cars for about 25 years or so.

Sure there might be a few days when they could be useful, but probably less than 1% of time. If the weather is really bad, then the 55 mph highway is pressed into service, since they are typically better maintained than the old back roads.

As for keeping the gas consumption low, my travel speed tends to slow down this time of year for two reasons:

1) The roads tend to be more slippery
2) They buckle up so bad in Wisconsin, I really don't want to beat up the car's suspension over those nasty bumps.

That tends to keep the gas mileage higher.

Jim.

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Honda Fit Belly Pan Project Fit Aerodynamics 17 08-10-2015 09:29 AM
FS: All USED Honda Insight Parts For Sale Fabio For Sale 17 06-16-2013 03:49 PM
Project: Rebuilding an '01 Honda Insight as a nonhybrid Fabio Hybrids 158 01-12-2013 12:59 PM
Honda Insight Concept to Debut at Paris Int. Auto Show SVOboy EcoModder Blog Discussion 32 04-17-2009 11:45 AM
2010 Honda Insight: Aero Belly Pan and such SVOboy Hybrids 0 04-15-2009 06:55 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com