04-04-2010, 07:06 PM
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how areodynamic are convertibles?
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i just saw an add on telly for a convirtable and the angle from wind screen to back was about 12deg. i bet with a cap it would be pretty areo?
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04-04-2010, 09:25 PM
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I suspect that convertables are only marginaly more aero than the average sport bike! Which is not that good.
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04-05-2010, 06:07 PM
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The Karmann Ghia convertible,with top up,was one tick lower than coupe,0.38vs0.39.
It's the only example I know of where a convertible scored lower than hardtop.
Of course,with the top down,they're sky-scrapers.
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04-05-2010, 07:00 PM
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I have access to a convertible. I think I'll run a test in a few days with the top up and the top down to see how the mileage is.
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04-05-2010, 09:25 PM
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I have a convertible now as well.
Expect some aero testing and aeroshell prototyping later in the year.
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saw an add on telly for a convirtable and the angle from wind screen to back was about 12deg. i bet with a cap it would be pretty areo
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I bet your bet is right.
The potential to reduce drag by aeromodding a convertible using a properly shaped hard top/tonneau is probably greater than the equivalent hard top car it's based on - at least within the vehicle's existing length.
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04-05-2010, 09:34 PM
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And to address the question in the title of the thread, I sure wish I had my Hucho book (BEN! Bring it to the GGP in Watkins Glen next month please) there's an entire section about convertible aerodynamics.
Here's a neat tidbit: the drag coefficient of the convertible version (with the top down) of the world's most slippery-shaped production car is 0.14 higher than the coupe it's based on:
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The E-class coupe carries what Mercedes claims is the lowest drag coefficient of any production car, ever: 0.24. The convertible slips by at a slightly worse 0.28 with the top up. Drag increases to 0.33 with the top down.
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Source: 2011 Mercedes-Benz E-class / E350 / E550 Cabriolet - Official Photos and Info - Car and Driver
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...short answer: NOT very aerodynamic!
...the late Fireball Roberts (of Daytona Beach fame) noted that the first races at Daytona raceway had two classes: convertibles and hardtops, but due to the "poor" aero of the open cockpits, nobody wanted to run convertibles...such that on race-day, French was "paying" drivers something like $2,000 to cut the tops off their hardtops and run them as convertables!
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04-06-2010, 05:02 PM
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while driving with my boss in his audi A4 convertible we where dicussing milage. he has a friend who has the same car with the same engine but as a hardtop, and he noted that even with the top closed he got slightly worse milage on average than this guy. of course they may have a different driving style etc but the science is there to support these observations.
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