How to prevent wild fires.

[Piotrsko]

Used to be Lots of poorly tended really dense forest in CALI, I don't recall seing that in New Mexico. The trees are spaced out further apart, like here in NV. Where the Dixie fire is, it was hard to hike without a cut trail

Having said that, we get grass fires, particularly now that cheat grass is prominent.

[oil pan 4]

We get grass fires after years with lots of rain like this year. Next year I'm sure new mexico will burn a little next year.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

We get grass fires after years with lots of rain like this year. Next year I'm sure new mexico will burn a little next year.

So you got lots of rain in New Mexico this year and haven't had any large forest fires. I think those go hand in hand.

On the other hand the strip of mountain forests from California up through Washington that is burning this year is in exceptional drought.

[oil pan 4]

Where I am there is little to no drought.
If we get good rain for a year or 2 then go into severe drought the next year it will burn. If we just stay in. Severe drought not that much grows.
I think the waste coast needs to expand their definition of normal. My average rain is 20 inches per year, but what we get is between 6 and 34 inches of rain per year and I have seen it go 9 months with out raining.

[Piotrsko]

Hate to say this but the dixie fire is outside of the exceptional drought area on that map, ditto for the caldor fire.

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

Hate to say this but the dixie fire is outside of the exceptional drought area on that map, ditto for the caldor fire.

Is it?

I think I did a pretty good job of placing the location (via google maps) into the drought map below. Is every large fire in the exceptional drought zone? No. Are a lot of them? Yes.

Considering that the majority of California and Oregon are either in exceptional or severe drought I personally don't fine it odd that we are having lots of fires.



Plumas County, CA

[oil pan 4]

Federal lands are grossly mismanaged.
https://youtu.be/ZzMmYlB--Q0

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzMmYl...ature=youtu.be

It's almost like they want crazy out of control fires that burn up whole towns.

[oil pan 4]

Colorado wildfire not "climate change".
The fire had 2 sources, a fire at a residence that was covered with dirt 6 days prior and reignited due to high wind then excell power lines that sparked also by high winds.
https://coloradopeakpolitics.com/202...limate-change/

[freebeard]

Rookie numbers. Canada had 15 250 fires start simutaneously.

https://www.aljazeera.com › news › 2023 › 6 › 9 › what-started-canadas-wildfires-and-are-they-under-control
What started Canada's wildfires and are they under control?
TodayAs of early Friday, there were 427 active wildfires, according to the Canadian Interagency Forest Fire Center; of those, 232 were out of control. In the West Coast province of British...

[redpoint5]

What I don't get is that most campgrounds prohibit collecting dead wood for campfires, which is precisely what causes the forests to burn uncontrollably. A brush fire sans dead wood will quickly burn itself out and spare the larger trees and shrubbery.

I was camping at Breitenbush the day prior to the fires that took it out, and still haven't been back to survey the damage.

Back in the day when they permitted vehicles to gain easy access to the area, we'd burn all the dead wood around for campfires, and I bet that would have spared the area from the recent wildfire.

Perhaps I'm wrong though, and the fire spread from large tree, to large tree because drought made them too dry?

When you drive around in the dry part of Oregon, all the large pine trees have black bark at the base from the various brush fires the trees have survived.

The theory being frequent smaller fires prevent the large calamitous ones.

Originally Posted by JSH

Considering that the majority of California and Oregon are either in exceptional or severe drought I personally don't fine it odd that we are having lots of fires.

My sense is that last month was warmer and much drier than normal here in the valley. I've had my sprinkler controller on for 2 months now, and normally I wouldn't be hooking it up until right about now... just looked out my office window while typing this and noticed some drops of rain on the porch, which is the first precip I can remember in weeks.

Already had a couple evenings of AC use, which I normally wouldn't run until July.

With regards to global warming, I readily accept that it can change precipitation patterns, but I'm very skeptical of the claims that those changes only ever cause problems for us. How does more overall precipitation exist while drought increases? More overall rainfall and more overall drought seem to be opposing ideas.