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Old 07-13-2021, 12:21 AM   #51 (permalink)
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I'm sure it comes down to initial cost. Asphalt roofs are cheaper to install but more expensive long term.
That's pretty much construction in general.

People want things built quickly and cheaply. Cheaply as in they'd prefer a 5 bedroom home with the cheapest materials and labor possible over a fire-proof, flood-proof, tornado-proof, earthquake-proof 2 bedroom home.

Take drywall vs plaster. Drywall installation is much cheaper than plaster, but get a few inches of water in your home and all the drywall around the bottom has to be cut off. Not so with plaster.

The same goes for fiberglass insulation verses mineral wool or foamed cement, which are not only more water resistant but also more fire-resistant than fiberglass too.

But the long term cost of a building is it's biggest cost. The more you put into making the building durable the longer it will last. There's this old story about three little pigs. It still applies today.

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Hate to tell you, but, the actual 75 years old wood lath and plaster walls fell apart when my house was flooded by vandals. Which was a shame because they were straight, true and even. The drywall that replaced them wasn't.
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Hate to tell you, but, the actual 75 years old wood lath and plaster walls fell apart when my house was flooded by vandals. Which was a shame because they were straight, true and even. The drywall that replaced them wasn't.
But we're talking about a 75 year old house. And the old wood was probably the weak link. Get a flood tomorrow and your drywall is toast.
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Plaster is a generic term including many materials and formulas.

Plaster and wood lath to me contains cement in the mix . Making it “Hard” and water resistant.

Drywall contains gypsum and no cement. Making it “Not hard” and readily absorbent.

However.

Wood lath readily absorbs water. Expanding as it does so, thus cracking the “plaster” causing damage.




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Wood lath readily absorbs water. Expanding as it does so, thus cracking the “plaster” causing damage
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One would think that after all 75 years, the wood lath dry shrank enough to generate cracks and loose spots.

But I do like the get wet and swollen part of the comment.
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Probably what will happen is I will get a lot of rain during solar maximum ramp up years, then a long no sunspot inspired drought makes all that green stuff die, then it's brown, then it turns red and orange then black.
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