Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-14-2008, 11:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
tasdrouille's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mirabel, QC
Posts: 1,672

The Guzzler - '08 Hyundai Elantra GL
90 day: 33.12 mpg (US)

Got Soul? - '11 Kia Soul 2U
Thanks: 35
Thanked 86 Times in 57 Posts
Hucho pdf

http://www.kuli.at/ftp/usermeeting/2...sengerCars.pdf

It's not much, but there's some interesting stuff in there and it's free.

Page 16 was of particular interest to me.

__________________



www.HyperKilometreur.com - Quand chaque goutte compte...
  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 02-14-2008, 11:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
That VX guy!
 
TomO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Mini Soda
Posts: 829

The VX - '92 Honda Civic VX
Thanks: 75
Thanked 80 Times in 53 Posts
Send a message via AIM to TomO Send a message via Yahoo to TomO
Use this information as a tool to further the knowledgment of mankind.

Anyone able to translate some of the document?

Good find, Tas'.
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2008, 12:14 PM   #3 (permalink)
ECO-Evolution
 
Lazarus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 1,482

Iron Horse (retired) - '97 Iron horse Intrepid

Ninja - '08 Kawasaki 250R
90 day: 76.23 mpg (US)
Thanks: 17
Thanked 45 Times in 34 Posts
Ultimate shape on page 20 is very interesting and counter intuitive.
__________________
"Judge a person by their questions rather than their answers."

  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2008, 04:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
3lr
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Arrow why?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lazarus View Post
Ultimate shape on page 20 is very interesting and counter intuitive.
why do you say that?
john
__________________
1.6l NA '80 Jetta Diesel 70mpg
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2008, 05:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
That VX guy!
 
TomO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Mini Soda
Posts: 829

The VX - '92 Honda Civic VX
Thanks: 75
Thanked 80 Times in 53 Posts
Send a message via AIM to TomO Send a message via Yahoo to TomO
It seems that the "ultimate" shape seems to try to eliminate the high pressure zone at the base of the windshield. I wonder what the Cd is on that shape?
__________________

  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2008, 06:15 PM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
tasdrouille's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Mirabel, QC
Posts: 1,672

The Guzzler - '08 Hyundai Elantra GL
90 day: 33.12 mpg (US)

Got Soul? - '11 Kia Soul 2U
Thanks: 35
Thanked 86 Times in 57 Posts
Well...it's "The ultimate shape?", note the question mark.

With a little bit of research I found this.

It was probably the ultimate shape for a "realistic" notchback car design back then.

Here are some other interesting concept designs from 1983. From top to bottom the CDs are .15, .23, .14
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	1983Concepts.jpg
Views:	64
Size:	20.2 KB
ID:	345  
__________________



www.HyperKilometreur.com - Quand chaque goutte compte...
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2008, 06:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
Pokémoderator
 
cfg83's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 5,864

1999 Saturn SW2 - '99 Saturn SW2 Wagon
Team Saturn
90 day: 40.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 439
Thanked 532 Times in 358 Posts
3lr -

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3lr View Post
why do you say that?
john
Yeah, it's soooooooo 1978 :

1978 Pininfarina Studio CNR (Pininfarina)
http://www.carstyling.ru/cars.1978_P...dio%20CNR.html


CarloSW2
__________________

What's your EPA MPG? Go Here and find out!
American Solar Energy Society
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2008, 06:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
I remember this thing. They called it the banana car.

http://www.is-it-a-lemon.com/dream-c...a-dreamcar.htm
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2008, 10:07 PM   #9 (permalink)
3lr
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfg83 View Post
3lr -

Yeah, it's soooooooo 1978 :
why would you say that?
70's cars were square, the era that defined the 3 box.
__________________
1.6l NA '80 Jetta Diesel 70mpg

Last edited by 3lr; 02-14-2008 at 10:14 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 02-14-2008, 11:37 PM   #10 (permalink)
Batman Junior
 
MetroMPG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: 1000 Islands, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 22,530

Blackfly - '98 Geo Metro
Team Metro
Last 3: 70.09 mpg (US)

MPGiata - '90 Mazda Miata
90 day: 54.46 mpg (US)

Even Fancier Metro - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage top spec
90 day: 70.75 mpg (US)

Appliance car Mirage - '14 Mitsubishi Mirage ES (base)
90 day: 62.14 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,078
Thanked 6,978 Times in 3,613 Posts
This vehicle looks to me like a 4-wheel Aptera. It has similarities (not surprisingly).

__________________
Project MPGiata! Mods for getting 50+ MPG from a 1990 Miata
Honda mods: Ecomodding my $800 Honda Fit 5-speed beater
Mitsu mods: 70 MPG in my ecomodded, dirt cheap, 3-cylinder Mirage.
Ecodriving test: Manual vs. automatic transmission MPG showdown



EcoModder
has launched a forum for the efficient new Mitsubishi Mirage
www.MetroMPG.com - fuel efficiency info for Geo Metro owners
www.ForkenSwift.com - electric car conversion on a beer budget
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Books about aerodynamics (Hucho, Barnard) MetroMPG Aerodynamics 29 01-10-2012 04:43 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com