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Old 10-01-2021, 02:58 PM   #211 (permalink)
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Still think a fully skirted vehicle with a Chaparall-style auxiliary engine-powered active aero system could ride things out on any flat surface.
Not a tidal surge. It would be carried away like a Cheetos' puff!

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Old 10-01-2021, 06:32 PM   #212 (permalink)
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Anchors away!

Fortunately you have the Florida Peninsula between you and the Canary[-in-a-coal-mine] Islands.
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Old 10-01-2021, 07:26 PM   #213 (permalink)
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Just don't encourage all your friends and neibors to ditch ICEV's and go all electric.

As of now, have an ICEV as a second car if you insist on having an EV. Whether you have the EV or not, keep at least half a tank of fuel in the ICEV.

The future of EV's is still unkown. It's definitely good to think of these scenarios. But when and if the time comes that most or all people have an EV I'm sure there'll be a way to figure that one out.

One idea would be to have some sort of emergency air battery. Air batteries are usually not rechargeable. But they can hold a lot more energy than even a lithium ion battery. The air battery could be used in those emergency situations where you need to go for hundreds of miles without charging.
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Old 10-01-2021, 08:23 PM   #214 (permalink)
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Obrist Powertrain GmbH from Austria is already testing a hybrid conversion for the Tesla Model 3. In the middle of all the hysteria about some upcoming ban on ICEs in Europe, it's enough for me to place a bet against full-EVs reaching a majority at any car market without some governmental intervention.
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Human/anything hybrid should be the baseline consideration.
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Turbodiesel is the original hybrid.
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Turbodiesel is the original hybrid.
What features of a turbodiesel make you see it as some sort of analogue to the hybrid?
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What features of a turbodiesel make you see it as some sort of analogue to the hybrid?
Maybe gas turbine engine and piston engine in one vehicle. On the other hand a turbocharged engine only runs on one fuel, which kind of defeats the purpose of having two types propulsion on one vehicle.

Either that or "it burns diesel and rubber."

I would tell people that my Leaf was a hybrid; that it was 50% electric powered and 50% push powered.
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Maybe gas turbine engine and piston engine in one vehicle.
That makes quite some sense, as a turbocharger recovers a reasonable amount of energy from the exhaust.


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On the other hand a turbocharged engine only runs on one fuel, which kind of defeats the purpose of having two types propulsion on one vehicle.
Flexfuels don't qualify immediately as hybrids.
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Maybe gas turbine engine and piston engine in one vehicle.
If it were, it would be a serial hybrid. Then if it had an altermotor, it would be a three-way hybrid.

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