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Old 09-19-2017, 07:52 AM   #61 (permalink)
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So many questions:
What is magical about 150 miles again?
How are hurricanes relevant to my life?
Why should I care if you think my car is worthless?
If you can get 150 miles inland, away from the hurricane it will greatly reduce the effects, as long as you don't pick a bad spot there would be little to no flooding.
If you are like me and live about 1,000 miles inland, they're not.
I think electric cars are great, as long as you are not in southern Florida or right on the hurricane vulnerable coast. If you just lived on the coast a little planning you will be fine.

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Old 09-19-2017, 05:43 PM   #62 (permalink)
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I'd love to have had a career designing 250mph houses, but no — everybody wants telescoping gables and engineered roofing trusses.
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Old 09-19-2017, 06:53 PM   #63 (permalink)
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"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow."--Kay, "Men in Black."

I do not necessarily like big groups of people for various reasons, but many people are quite tolerable individually. Usually, I do not enjoy hearing people suffer, unless they are an ex-girlfriend, then I just do not care. JSH, if you do not care about people other than yourself, I doubt we can convince you of our point of view, but when disaster hits one place in the U.S., it generally effects those of us elsewhere. Maybe that is why my last fill-up in the Phoenix area cost 25¢ more than the previous. Resources cannot flow from areas stricken with disasters and generally flow there, when we might want them elsewhere.

I understand that those with job skills have good opportunities to make money rebuilding things.
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Old 09-19-2017, 09:12 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Unfortunately no one wants to pay for a house that could withstand 250mph winds, or doesn't want one because they think that it will look like a WWII bunker. To build a fully concrete house roof and all shouldn't cost more than around 130% of a normal house and they look like normal houses, just the finished walls end up being around the thickness of 2x6 construction.
The problem is a lot of people start off building a foundation for a 200mph+ wind resistant house, but then once the basement is poured they go 2x4 for everything above grade.

Yes avoid large groups of idiots.
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Unfortunately no one wants to pay for a house that could withstand 250mph winds...
I'd settle for one where the shingles on the roof didn't blow off in moderate 80 mph or so winds. Or even one where they'd all blow off, so I could soak the insurance company for a new roof, instead of replacing one here, one there...
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Metal roof then.
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Metal roof then.
Doesn't work. We had a small hurricane here, many years ago, and it ripped metal roofs of at least a dozen factory buildings around me.
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The thing with metal roofing is there is a few ways to do it.
A traditional to code metal roof on a metal building is the weakest.
A normal house that had asphalt roof replaced with a metal roof is much stronger.

There is a barn near me that at some point had a metal roof put on it. The entire roof was ripped off and sent into high voltage transmission lines. The metal roof didn't fail, the structure hold it did.
Asphalt shingle roofs are made more robust to handle tons of shingles with tons of snow and ice upon the shingles.
The only place I have really seen asphalt shingles is the US.
Then when the asphalt shingles are replaced with metal, the roof is pretty heavily over built.

The best roof for hurricanes is concrete or terracotta. I have seen it survive cat 5 typhoons in the Pacific.
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If I were looking to build a hurricane-proof structure I'd still be more inclined toward something like a Quonset hut.
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How about a Hobbit Hole?

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