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Old 10-30-2018, 03:16 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hybrid fuel setup

Good day

I currently have a fuel bubbler and before then a small spiral HHO.

My question regarding MAP /or Efie setup to optimize for the following .

Soon I will have the following devices :
1) HHO slightly less than 0.5 LPM.
2)Bubbler from a tyre pump .
3)Ultrasonic water vapor .

With these three I need to know if anyone else has such a setup and what enhancing device has worked for them .

Subaru Legacy 2001 EJ25 non-turbo.
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Old 10-30-2018, 04:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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HHO has been discussed to death. No real benefits that are measurable.

Fuel in vapour form is known to be slightly beneficial. BUT there is a lot of hype claiming with vapour form it will achieve 1000 times the benefit. However the benefit is smallish. If a fuel like lpg is used, it is injected in gas form. So it is already fully vaporized. Examine lpg vehicles or vehicles converted to lpg and come to your own conclusion regarding the benefits of a gaseous fuel.

Water ingestion can have some benefits. You can expect something in the range of %5 under some conditions on diesel engines. But a lot of tinkering is necessary. Under normal conditions it will have a negative effect rather than positive.
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Hi Thank you for reply .

Need to correct the LPG - I meant liters per minute being LPM .

From my fuel bubbler alone I have manged to reduce the consumprion from best ever 8l/100 to 6,9 l/100. Could have been better but I only had bubbler going 3 of the 4 days on a set route to and from work .Not bad so far for an all wheel drive large vehicle .
The HHO , if nothing else but to clean emissions then I would keep this in the loop .

I also run a warm air intake .

Regarding the ultrasonic vapor injection - do I leave as is or try pre-heat prior to entering the intake .
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Do share the specifics of your setup.

Is the vapour fuel in conjunction with the wai?

Wai can provide %10. If your vehicle does not bapourize the fuel well when stock then your bubbler may also help.
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For WAI I have removed the standard Intake shroud - removed original filter- replaced with cone CARGO filter .From measuring on my CRP123 Launch unit my intake averages between 45 and 66 degrees.

The Tyre pump is mounted next to the filter box and intake to this pump the temperature is basically the same as intake - although on the other side of engine .

I can get hotter air if I take a feed from the exhaust but I want to get the fuel vapor +
HHO and water vapor system installed and take it from there.
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Most of the gains you are seeing are likely from the warm air intake.

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